Billy Budd wrote:In august - and September - which jumpsuits would Elvis have used? We know the the new light blue one wasn't 100% ready for use. So what would he have been wearing in Portland?
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The same DJ that I mentioned in an earlier post told me that Elvis had told Charlie Hodge to have the band prepared to play "Way Down," "A Mess of Blues," and "One Sided Love Affair" for the August 1977 tour. Now to be sure, I'm not sure that given Elvis' state in the summer of '77 that he would have actually performed any of the three in concert. However, all three would have been great to hear in concert.
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People who worship men as idols, tend to flock in droves - no matter what their status is. Parker could have sold tickets for a marble statue of Elvis, and people would have come to see it. People pay money still still see a video screen of Elvis. False idol worship is . . . false idol worship.midnightx wrote: After seeing Elvis In Concert during the fall of 1977, fans no doubt would have flocked in huge numbers to the new Hilton venue to see their hero.
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Now that's what I call a shower setlist.Big Boss Man wrote:What might have been
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Possibly the one he'd intended to use on the August 77 tourBilly Budd wrote:In august - and September - which jumpsuits would Elvis have used? We know the the new light blue one wasn't 100% ready for use. So what would he have been wearing in Portland?
My guess is he would've dropped the jumpsuits after 1977 or possibly 1978 and switched to something similar to the 2-piece outfits he wore in 1975.
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He did perform Raised On Rock at his opening night show in Las Vegas on August 6, 1973 right after singing Trouble. To my knowledge this is the only time he ever performed it on stage?Lonely Summer wrote: The only one of those 3 that I could believe might have made it into the setlist is Way Down, simply because it was his current single. Normally, he did perform his latest release - early in the 70's, Burning Love, American Trilogy, If You Talk in Your Sleep, Help Me, It's Midnight, Promised Land, My Boy, T-R-O-U-B-L-E and Hurt made it into his shows; I don't recall ever hearing a live recording of Raised On Rock or I've Got a Thing About You, Baby, though. And of course Moody Blue had only one half hearted live performance.
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Yes, he even anounced over the intro music as "my new single".Big Boss Man wrote:He did perform Raised On Rock at his opening night show in Las Vegas on August 6, 1973 right after singing Trouble. To my knowledge this is the only time he ever performed it on stage?Lonely Summer wrote: The only one of those 3 that I could believe might have made it into the setlist is Way Down, simply because it was his current single. Normally, he did perform his latest release - early in the 70's, Burning Love, American Trilogy, If You Talk in Your Sleep, Help Me, It's Midnight, Promised Land, My Boy, T-R-O-U-B-L-E and Hurt made it into his shows; I don't recall ever hearing a live recording of Raised On Rock or I've Got a Thing About You, Baby, though. And of course Moody Blue had only one half hearted live performance.
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Yes, but that suit wasn't ready for use in August. I guess i have to ask Gene Doucette.Big Boss Man wrote:Possibly the one he'd intended to use on the August 77 tourBilly Budd wrote:In august - and September - which jumpsuits would Elvis have used? We know the the new light blue one wasn't 100% ready for use. So what would he have been wearing in Portland?
My guess is he would've dropped the jumpsuits after 1977 or possibly 1978 and switched to something similar to the 2-piece outfits he wore in 1975.
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The Mexican Sundian Suit was worn out and almost "falling apart" at the end of the June tour someone on this forum told earlier. Well, used probably too much. I know for a fact - Gene Doucette told me this - that the Mexican in 1977 was made bigger at the back so that Elvis could still use it.elvis-fan wrote:Billy Budd wrote:In august - and September - which jumpsuits would Elvis have used? We know the the new light blue one wasn't 100% ready for use. So what would he have been wearing in Portland?
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And while it is far from my favorite record, he did actually do a pretty good job on the tune.Big Boss Man wrote:He did perform Raised On Rock at his opening night show in Las Vegas on August 6, 1973 right after singing Trouble. To my knowledge this is the only time he ever performed it on stage?
It was a nice surprise when I first heard it many moons ago.
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I totally agree Rob.Rob wrote: And while it is far from my favorite record, he did actually do a pretty good job on the tune.
It was a nice surprise when I first heard it many moons ago.
In my opinion the one live version seamed to have a bit more uptempo "punch" to it as compared to the studio version.
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I believe Charlie mentioned something about them discussing One Sided Love Affair for the upcoming tour in his book... I haven't read it for quite some time.rlj4ep wrote:The same DJ that I mentioned in an earlier post told me that Elvis had told Charlie Hodge to have the band prepared to play "Way Down," "A Mess of Blues," and "One Sided Love Affair" for the August 1977 tour. Now to be sure, I'm not sure that given Elvis' state in the summer of '77 that he would have actually performed any of the three in concert. However, all three would have been great to hear in concert.
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I (think) those 3 songs are pushing guess work too far....having said that WAY DOWN would have been possible as it was 'IN' the charts at the time!~
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or Elvis could have done a very similar 'job' on it as he did with 'moody blue' live!~
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I'm sure Elvis' jumpsuits, throughout the 70's, were checked for minor repairs at some point... and I believe he had more than one of the Sundial suits.Billy Budd wrote:The Mexican Sundian Suit was worn out and almost "falling apart" at the end of the June tour someone on this forum told earlier. Well, used probably too much. I know for a fact - Gene Doucette told me this - that the Mexican in 1977 was made bigger at the back so that Elvis could still use it.
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I've heard the "One-Sided Love Affair" rumour many different times before, and it is certainly a plausible one, although I don't think I could singlehandedly pick a worse song for Elvis to sing in 1977. It's possibly the hardest, fastest, most challenging of his '50s Rockers to execute correctly (especially if he wanted to get anywhere near his glorius 1956 master). I can only reason that had Elvis sung it in Aug/Sep 1977, it would have been a total disaster.rlj4ep wrote:The same DJ that I mentioned in an earlier post told me that Elvis had told Charlie Hodge to have the band prepared to play "Way Down," "A Mess of Blues," and "One Sided Love Affair" for the August 1977 tour. Now to be sure, I'm not sure that given Elvis' state in the summer of '77 that he would have actually performed any of the three in concert. However, all three would have been great to hear in concert.
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But it is certainly possible Elvis may have thought about including it in his set, because it is said he actually made reference to the song to describe how he felt about his relationship with Ginger Alden and Presley himself went on record as saying back in 1956 that it was his favourite song on the first LP. So the rumour does have some credentials at least.
What I find most intriguing is the possibility that Elvis might have played his first LP, in June/July/August of 1977 at home at Graceland, to listen to the song. I just find that possibility fascinating on many levels. I wonder what would have gone through his head, as he listened to how he once was, what had got him famous in the first place, then compared it to where he found himself now? There's almost no stories or anecdotes of Elvis ever reminiscing, looking back, or listening to his old records in those final years of his life. I've always felt it was something that somebody around him should have encouraged more often in the 1970s, because it may have sparked an old flame in the man to realise what his life had once really been about and that going back to those roots was really going to be the only way forward for him. Getting back to a simple love of singing and making great music. And realising that what he had achieved in the 1950s and early 1960s was really something to be proud of and celebrate and show more respect than he did. Whenever he did talk about his early records later on in life, he did so with a kind of embarassment - and whenever he performed most of those old hits, they were tossed away as if they were old hat and something that had to be done.
There was once a time when Elvis loved the hell out of singing Hound Dog, Don't Be Cruel and Love Me Tender. Listening to his concerts in the 1970s, it's a fact many would find hard to believe.
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I could have seen A Mess of Blues morphing into For The Heart had he kept the same pace for both songs, which is possible.... Kind of a great combination...
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Ginger tells a story about Elvis looking at albums at her parents' home and coming across The Sun Sessions. IIRC she says he looked at it for a long time and then said something along the lines of "I like this." Maybe its no accident that 1970s Elvis gave more careful treatment to his Sun sides (That's Alright and Trying To Get To You) than to his earlier RCA hits. Maybe he recognized, perhaps unconsciously, the value of those earlier records. Way Down harkens back to earlier, streamlined Elvis tunes, and perhaps he planned to continue more in that direction in later recording sessions. Who knows?Good Time Charlie wrote:I've heard the "One-Sided Love Affair" rumour many different times before, and it is certainly a plausible one, although I don't think I could singlehandedly pick a worse song for Elvis to sing in 1977. It's possibly the hardest, fastest, most challenging of his '50s Rockers to execute correctly (especially if he wanted to get anywhere near his glorius 1956 master). I can only reason that had Elvis sung it in Aug/Sep 1977, it would have been a total disaster.rlj4ep wrote:The same DJ that I mentioned in an earlier post told me that Elvis had told Charlie Hodge to have the band prepared to play "Way Down," "A Mess of Blues," and "One Sided Love Affair" for the August 1977 tour. Now to be sure, I'm not sure that given Elvis' state in the summer of '77 that he would have actually performed any of the three in concert. However, all three would have been great to hear in concert.
rlj
But it is certainly possible Elvis may have thought about including it in his set, because it is said he actually made reference to the song to describe how he felt about his relationship with Ginger Alden and Presley himself went on record as saying back in 1956 that it was his favourite song on the first LP. So the rumour does have some credentials at least.
What I find most intriguing is the possibility that Elvis might have played his first LP, in June/July/August of 1977 at home at Graceland, to listen to the song. I just find that possibility fascinating on many levels. I wonder what would have gone through his head, as he listened to how he once was, what had got him famous in the first place, then compared it to where he found himself now? There's almost no stories or anecdotes of Elvis ever reminiscing, looking back, or listening to his old records in those final years of his life. I've always felt it was something that somebody around him should have encouraged more often in the 1970s, because it may have sparked an old flame in the man to realise what his life had once really been about and that going back to those roots was really going to be the only way forward for him. Getting back to a simple love of singing and making great music. And realising that what he had achieved in the 1950s and early 1960s was really something to be proud of and celebrate and show more respect than he did. Whenever he did talk about his early records later on in life, he did so with a kind of embarassment - and whenever he performed most of those old hits, they were tossed away as if they were old hat and something that had to be done.
There was once a time when Elvis loved the hell out of singing Hound Dog, Don't Be Cruel and Love Me Tender. Listening to his concerts in the 1970s, it's a fact many would find hard to believe.
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Where may we read this story? It's a new one, and very intriguing. Who at the Alden house would have bought that March 1976 LP compilation? Certainly not twenty year-old Ginger.ICanHelp wrote:Ginger tells a story about Elvis looking at albums at her parents' home and coming across The Sun Sessions. IIRC she says he looked at it for a long time and then said something along the lines of "I like this." Maybe its no accident that 1970s Elvis gave more careful treatment to his Sun sides (That's Alright and Trying To Get To You) than to his earlier RCA hits. Maybe he recognized, perhaps unconsciously, the value of those earlier records. Way Down harkens back to earlier, streamlined Elvis tunes, and perhaps he planned to continue more in that direction in later recording sessions. Who knows?
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Perhaps someone with Ginger's book handy can copy and post the relevant paragraphs?drjohncarpenter wrote:Where may we read this story? It's a new one, and very intriguing. Who at the Alden house would have bought that March 1976 LP compilation? Certainly not twenty year-old Ginger.ICanHelp wrote:Ginger tells a story about Elvis looking at albums at her parents' home and coming across The Sun Sessions. IIRC she says he looked at it for a long time and then said something along the lines of "I like this." Maybe its no accident that 1970s Elvis gave more careful treatment to his Sun sides (That's Alright and Trying To Get To You) than to his earlier RCA hits. Maybe he recognized, perhaps unconsciously, the value of those earlier records. Way Down harkens back to earlier, streamlined Elvis tunes, and perhaps he planned to continue more in that direction in later recording sessions. Who knows?
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Ah, OK, it's in the new book. I found the bit. It was one of a stack of LPs in sister Rosemary's bedroom. Ironically, the cover Elvis compliments was actually an amalgam of a June 1968 head shot pasted on a 1956 body.ICanHelp wrote:Perhaps someone with Ginger's book handy can copy and post the relevant paragraphs?drjohncarpenter wrote:Where may we read this story? It's a new one, and very intriguing. Who at the Alden house would have bought that March 1976 LP compilation? Certainly not twenty year-old Ginger.ICanHelp wrote:Ginger tells a story about Elvis looking at albums at her parents' home and coming across The Sun Sessions. IIRC she says he looked at it for a long time and then said something along the lines of "I like this." Maybe its no accident that 1970s Elvis gave more careful treatment to his Sun sides (That's Alright and Trying To Get To You) than to his earlier RCA hits. Maybe he recognized, perhaps unconsciously, the value of those earlier records. Way Down harkens back to earlier, streamlined Elvis tunes, and perhaps he planned to continue more in that direction in later recording sessions. Who knows?
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Does Ginger mention if Rosemary had a copy of the fairly recent 45 "My Boy" single?
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Wasn't September of 1977 the month Elvis was supposed to leave the stages for a year to take care of his health according to Larry Geller?
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It's hard not to agree with you when you listen the treatment Elvis gave to Such a Night on December 30, 1976. Although it's not a song from the Sun era like you mentioned, this live version of Such a Night is surely one of my all time favorites.ICanHelp wrote:Ginger tells a story about Elvis looking at albums at her parents' home and coming across The Sun Sessions. IIRC she says he looked at it for a long time and then said something along the lines of "I like this." Maybe its no accident that 1970s Elvis gave more careful treatment to his Sun sides (That's Alright and Trying To Get To You) than to his earlier RCA hits. Maybe he recognized, perhaps unconsciously, the value of those earlier records. Way Down harkens back to earlier, streamlined Elvis tunes, and perhaps he planned to continue more in that direction in later recording sessions. Who knows?Good Time Charlie wrote:I've heard the "One-Sided Love Affair" rumour many different times before, and it is certainly a plausible one, although I don't think I could singlehandedly pick a worse song for Elvis to sing in 1977. It's possibly the hardest, fastest, most challenging of his '50s Rockers to execute correctly (especially if he wanted to get anywhere near his glorius 1956 master). I can only reason that had Elvis sung it in Aug/Sep 1977, it would have been a total disaster.rlj4ep wrote:The same DJ that I mentioned in an earlier post told me that Elvis had told Charlie Hodge to have the band prepared to play "Way Down," "A Mess of Blues," and "One Sided Love Affair" for the August 1977 tour. Now to be sure, I'm not sure that given Elvis' state in the summer of '77 that he would have actually performed any of the three in concert. However, all three would have been great to hear in concert.
rlj
But it is certainly possible Elvis may have thought about including it in his set, because it is said he actually made reference to the song to describe how he felt about his relationship with Ginger Alden and Presley himself went on record as saying back in 1956 that it was his favourite song on the first LP. So the rumour does have some credentials at least.
What I find most intriguing is the possibility that Elvis might have played his first LP, in June/July/August of 1977 at home at Graceland, to listen to the song. I just find that possibility fascinating on many levels. I wonder what would have gone through his head, as he listened to how he once was, what had got him famous in the first place, then compared it to where he found himself now? There's almost no stories or anecdotes of Elvis ever reminiscing, looking back, or listening to his old records in those final years of his life. I've always felt it was something that somebody around him should have encouraged more often in the 1970s, because it may have sparked an old flame in the man to realise what his life had once really been about and that going back to those roots was really going to be the only way forward for him. Getting back to a simple love of singing and making great music. And realising that what he had achieved in the 1950s and early 1960s was really something to be proud of and celebrate and show more respect than he did. Whenever he did talk about his early records later on in life, he did so with a kind of embarassment - and whenever he performed most of those old hits, they were tossed away as if they were old hat and something that had to be done.
There was once a time when Elvis loved the hell out of singing Hound Dog, Don't Be Cruel and Love Me Tender. Listening to his concerts in the 1970s, it's a fact many would find hard to believe.
Elvis, what happened?