Bachmann Wishes Elvis Happy Birthday On His Death Day

Sorry folks, I am not gonna comment. Over here in The Netherlands we have our own problems with insain politicians. I can imagine America's worst nightware would be a Tea party President but then again we have got worries of our own. That Bachmann has the date wrong is just a failure of minor and silly proportion: she thought to score by mentioning Elvis but she made a fool of herself. Good for her!

I don't care about the mistake with Elvis. That's something you can laugh about...
What's really scary ...

Yes, what's really scary is Obama's handling of the economy!

I can imagine America's worst nightware would be a Tea party President ...

No, no! America's worst nightmare is happening right now with a financially irresponsible, debt-embracing guy named Obama.

"Obama's Prison Blues" by Johnny Cashless - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n8K5b3gFvI

"Obama Budget Plan" by Ray Stevens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TcpfBHlbs




Hope this enlightens you, Alexander!


Jim

I can imagine America's worst nightware would be a Tea party President ...

No, no! America's worst nightmare is happening right now with a financially irresponsible, debt-embracing guy named Obama.

"Obama's Prison Blues" by Johnny Cashless - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n8K5b3gFvI

"Obama Budget Plan" by Ray Stevens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TcpfBHlbs




Hope this enlightens you, Alexander!


Jim

Yep, a president that for the first time cares for the poor and desires to make health care available for everyone, who wishful for the rich to pay more taxes so they contribute equally. Indeed a very scarry guy, this Obama...

Sorry folks, I am not gonna comment. Over here in The Netherlands we have our own problems with insain politicians. I can imagine America's worst nightware would be a Tea party President but then again we have got worries of our own. That Bachmann has the date wrong is just a failure of minor and silly proportion: she thought to score by mentioning Elvis but she made a fool of herself. Good for her!

You just did, didn't you?

Bachmann has ZERO chance of becoming president. But, there is this guy.

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MT

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I can imagine America's worst nightware would be a Tea party President ...

No, no! America's worst nightmare is happening right now with a financially irresponsible, debt-embracing guy named Obama.

"Obama's Prison Blues" by Johnny Cashless - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n8K5b3gFvI

"Obama Budget Plan" by Ray Stevens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TcpfBHlbs




Hope this enlightens you, Alexander!


Jim

Yep, a president that for the first time cares for the poor and desires to make health care available for everyone, who wishful for the rich to pay more taxes so they contribute equally. Indeed a very scarry guy, this Obama...

As a European used to virtually free health care, I can't get my head around the hostility towards that either.
I have an acquaintance who is anti-Obama, kept going on about the Healthcare proposals: 'we want to choose our own healthcare', 'people should take responsibility for their own halth care' etc etc. Then she got ill and has no insurance to cover the treatment she needs
I just don't understand people like that.

re this other woman - how stupid would a would-be leader have to be to let themself be photographed with that in their mouth?

You got it right Jane. I have personal friends in Europe who feel sorry for me.

rjm

I have personal friends in Europe who feel sorry for me.

You could move.


RKS

I have personal friends in Europe who feel sorry for me.

You could move.

Given your antipathy for our current president, it's shocking you haven't. How are you going to stand President Barack Obama until January 2017?

God bless our wonderful President, Barack H. Obama, #44!

Listen Nashville dude: I AM AN AMERICAN. How DARE you tell me to "move"? If you want your own radical right dictatorship, why should I move? YOU do not seem to like our form of government. You do not seem to like it here.

rjm

Sorry folks, I am not gonna comment. Over here in The Netherlands we have our own problems with insain politicians. I can imagine America's worst nightware would be a Tea party President but then again we have got worries of our own. That Bachmann has the date wrong is just a failure of minor and silly proportion: she thought to score by mentioning Elvis but she made a fool of herself. Good for her!

You just did, didn't you?

Got me KHoots, I just could not resist it although I really tried

As a European used to virtually free health care, I can't get my head around the hostility towards that either.
I have an acquaintance who is anti-Obama, kept going on about the Healthcare proposals: 'we want to choose our own healthcare', 'people should take responsibility for their own halth care' etc etc. Then she got ill and has no insurance to cover the treatment she needs
I just don't understand people like that.

I just do not get it either... How could anyone oppose a health care system like we know that in most European countries? How could anyone oppose for rich people to contribute more to society by taxes than poor people like in most European countries?

In stead of that we regularly see benefits being organized for members of the TCB Band when they are unable to pay for health care and people rant on EPE for not supporting these TCB members. It is not EPE however which is responsible for such a complete unfair and inhuman policy. That responsibility is completely with the American voters.

I have personal friends in Europe who feel sorry for me.

You could move.

Given your antipathy for our current president, it's shocking you haven't. How are you going to stand President Barack Obama until January 2017?

God bless our wonderful President, Barack H. Obama, #44!

+1

Listen Nashville dude: I AM AN AMERICAN. How DARE you tell me to "move"? If you want your own radical right dictatorship, why should I move? YOU do not seem to like our form of government. You do not seem to like it here.

You are the one who wants something that was not part of America's founding. It is not for the government to give you healthcare. No where in our founding documents is the government to give you anything, except to provide for the common defense.

Remember, the government does not have the money unless they take it (confiscate) from another citizen.


If you want free healthcare, go somewhere that has it. You don't even have to leave the United States. Go to Massachusettes - they have it. Or heck, you could even stay in the North American continent - just go to Canada.

YOU do not seem to like our form of government. You do not seem to like it here

Dude, I love America and it's form of government as it was founded - a Representative Republic! America was founded on small - limited government with individual liberty. What I and a majority of Americans don't like is what it is becoming, especially with Obama - an even bigger government - socialist state.

If you don't like the principles America was founded on then it is you who does not like America, not me.

America was never to be a big government socialism country.


If you want a big government - socialist utopia there are plenty around the world - go there. Don't change America.

If last November's mid-term elections are any indication of what the 2012 elections will be like, Obama is a 1 term president.


It's time to restore America to what the Founding Fathers originally intended.


This pretty much sums up where we are today:

If a candidate will articulate these conservative principles in this next election (as Reagan did), that candidate will win in a landslide (as Reagan did, twice!).


RKS

Let's move this tired debate to the off-topic section.

Let's move this tired debate to the off-topic section.

Who's tired? I'm not tired.



RKS

I am not a dude, dude. And what part of LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do you not understand?

Seems we the people passed a healthcare bill. And you will benefit from it! Sorry if that bothers you.

rjm.

Why does the invitations to leave the country always come from the Right? The door works both ways. If you don't like the health care act, you're free to go.

If anyone who thinks Obama's health plan, which went to great and IMO unnecessary, lengths to preserve the private insurance industry and their obscene (in the truest sense word) profits is socialism they don't know what socialism is. I think the Republicans who desperately want the Oval Office back just feel that they can toss out on any charge and hope it sticks. Sunday Eric Cantor wrote a piece in the The Washington Post about Obama's high tax and regulatory approach to government. Please tell me where this President is. I haven't seen him. Even though Obama has professed interest in a very slight increase in taxes on the top earners in the country and the American people overwhelmingly support such a move, taxes are the same as they were all along. Hell, he even gave up on closing tax loopholes in the budget/debt ceiling debate this summer. I may just be a country boy who's never seen too much of the world but it would seem to me that in order to be a tax raiser, a person would actually have to raise taxes somewhere along the line.

Bringing the Founding Fathers into this debate is a bait and switch. Not even considering the 17 amendments that have been fastened onto the Constitution (not counting the Bill of Rights) since it was initially approved, the Supreme Court's two centuries of decisions expanding and contracting the rights and limitations of that document, it is pretty safe to assume that when the Founders were talking about small government they were more talking about the government kicking in your door at three a.m. without a warrant, or forcing you to house a soldier or taxing you without a vote, not paying for kidney operations. (Surprisingly, some "originalists" like Antonin Scalia are surprisingly down with the government's ability to kick down your door at 3 a.m. without a warrant. )

This probably does belong off topic.

Let's move this tired debate to the off-topic section.

Agreed. If James Burton's birthday isn't worthy of All-Elvis, neither is this.

Listen Nashville dude: I AM AN AMERICAN. How DARE you tell me to "move"? If you want your own radical right dictatorship, why should I move? YOU do not seem to like our form of government. You do not seem to like it here.

You are the one who wants something that was not part of America's founding. It is not for the government to give you healthcare. No where in our founding documents is the government to give you anything, except to provide for the common defense.

Remember, the government does not have the money unless they take it (confiscate) from another citizen.


If you want free healthcare, go somewhere that has it. You don't even have to leave the United States. Go to Massachusettes - they have it. Or heck, you could even stay in the North American continent - just go to Canada.

YOU do not seem to like our form of government. You do not seem to like it here

Dude, I love America and it's form of government as it was founded - a Representative Republic! America was founded on small - limited government with individual liberty. What I and a majority of Americans don't like is what it is becoming, especially with Obama - an even bigger government - socialist state.

If you don't like the principles America was founded on then it is you who does not like America, not me.

America was never to be a big government socialism country.


If you want a big government - socialist utopia there are plenty around the world - go there. Don't change America.

If last November's mid-term elections are any indication of what the 2012 elections will be like, Obama is a 1 term president.


It's time to restore America to what the Founding Fathers originally intended.

RKS, you are a very wise, well-informed man with plenty of common sense and respect for what is best for the citizens of The United States Of America.

It's so hilarious (and sad) when a foreigner like Alexander chimes in on American issues when he doesn't have a clue about what America is all about.


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Jim
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More FREEDOM please, less government dictatorship. I appreciate a good country so let's not forget that the beginning of America's story is of so much more importance than how the liberals are trying to change things now to accommodate their own agendas.

rjm wrote:

I am not a dude, dude.

What makes you so sure I am? Dude is a generality, like the words man or guys can be. Example: "hey man, wasn't that great" or "hey you guys". I'm not calling you a man or a guy so don't take it personal.

And what part of LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do you not understand?

I understand it completely - you on the other hand - not so much.

First of all you took "LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" out of context.

From the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

The unalienable rights as mentioned come from God (the Creator) not from governments. Governments are instituted - by the people - to secure (not give) and the power comes from the governed (the People).

Our form of government is from the people to the government, not the other way around. The power comes from the people.

Listen at about the 45 second mark:

Seems we the people passed a healthcare bill. And you will benefit from it! Sorry if that bothers you.

No "we the people" did not pass the healthcare bill. The majority of Americans did not want what was passed.

There was so much arm twisting and bribes going on to get that passed. They passed the bill "in the dark of the night" without the politicians never even reading the bill.


Watch this:

Discussion about the healthcare bill is a moot point as it has already been ruled un-Constitutional:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/appeals- ... d=14292970



likethebike:

Some suggest "tax the rich to make up the deficit". As of the end of 2010, the total worth of all American billionaires is $1.3 Trillion. We could take ALL their worth, not just high taxes, but ALL their WORTH; and it wouldn't dent our national debt. It won't even pay this year deficit! And if we did take their money to pay some of this year's deficit, what would we we do next year?

We cannot tax our way out of this problem. You can't tax the rich enough (even if you took it all) to fix the deficit and debt problem.

We have a spending problem not a revenue problem and it comes from both sides of the aisle.

•President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion in his first year!
•President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.
•President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern­ment health care fund.
•President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi­dent Obama would double it.
•President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in­creased this spending by 20 percent.
•President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

•President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.



likethebike wrote:

If anyone who thinks Obama's health plan, which went to great and IMO unnecessary, lengths to preserve the private insurance industry and their obscene (in the truest sense word) profits is socialism they don't know what socialism is

Who pays for the healhcare? The government? The government has no money to start with unless they first take it from the people. When you take income from one group of citizens and give it to another, whether it be in the form of healthcare, tax rebates (earned income tax credit), food stamps, welfare, or any of the many other forms of government hand outs, that is socialism - progressiveism - liberalism - or whatever you kids are calling it these days. Whatever you want to call it - it's un-American! If you want socialist Europe or Canada - go there!

Besides, we already have programs to help those in need: medicare and medicaid - both of which are need of reform.



Obama does have socialist leanings:

Bringing the Founding Fathers into this debate is a bait and switch. Not even considering the 17 amendments that have been fastened onto the Constitution (not counting the Bill of Rights)...

No one is talking about doing away with any of the Amendments, if that was your point. Remember, the Bill of Rights wer'e added to the Constitution to limit governments role - not give it power. The Bill of Rights tells the government what it can't do - not what it can do.


Listen to Obama the community organizer talk about the Constitution being a charter of negative liberties:

America is finally starting to awaken to this problem. The elections of 2012 will be huge. It will determine if America as it was founded will survive or not. Hopefully it's not too late.


Country comedian Ray Stevens puts it this way:

http://raystevens.com/shop/index.php?ma ... 4bd90d2c79



RKS

rjm wrote:

I am not a dude, dude.

What makes you so sure I am? Dude is a generality, like the words man or guys can be. Example: "hey man, wasn't that great" or "hey you guys". I'm not calling you a man or a guy so don't take it personal.

And what part of LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do you not understand?

I understand it completely - you on the other hand - not so much.

First of all you took "LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" out of context.

From the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

The unalienable rights as mentioned come from God (the Creator) not from governments. Governments are instituted - by the people - to secure (not give) and the power comes from the governed (the People).

Our form of government is from the people to the government, not the other way around. The power comes from the people.

Listen at about the 45 second mark:

Seems we the people passed a healthcare bill. And you will benefit from it! Sorry if that bothers you.

No "we the people" did not pass the healthcare bill. The majority of Americans did not want what was passed.

There was so much arm twisting and bribes going on to get that passed. They passed the bill "in the dark of the night" without the politicians never even reading the bill.


Watch this:

Discussion about the healthcare bill is a moot point as it has already been ruled un-Constitutional:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/appeals- ... d=14292970



likethebike:

Some suggest "tax the rich to make up the deficit". As of the end of 2010, the total worth of all American billionaires is $1.3 Trillion. We could take ALL their worth, not just high taxes, but ALL their WORTH; and it wouldn't dent our national debt. It won't even pay this year deficit! And if we did take their money to pay some of this year's deficit, what would we we do next year?

We cannot tax our way out of this problem. You can't tax the rich enough (even if you took it all) to fix the deficit and debt problem.

We have a spending problem not a revenue problem and it comes from both sides of the aisle.

•President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion in his first year!
•President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.
•President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern­ment health care fund.
•President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi­dent Obama would double it.
•President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in­creased this spending by 20 percent.
•President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

•President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.



likethebike wrote:

If anyone who thinks Obama's health plan, which went to great and IMO unnecessary, lengths to preserve the private insurance industry and their obscene (in the truest sense word) profits is socialism they don't know what socialism is

Who pays for the healhcare? The government? The government has no money to start with unless they first take it from the people. When you take income from one group of citizens and give it to another, whether it be in the form of healthcare, tax rebates (earned income tax credit), food stamps, welfare, or any of the many other forms of government hand outs, that is socialism - progressiveism - liberalism - or whatever you kids are calling it these days. Whatever you want to call it - it's un-American! If you want socialist Europe or Canada - go there!

Besides, we already have programs to help those in need: medicare and medicaid - both of which are need of reform.



Obama does have socialist leanings:

Bringing the Founding Fathers into this debate is a bait and switch. Not even considering the 17 amendments that have been fastened onto the Constitution (not counting the Bill of Rights)...

No one is talking about doing away with any of the Amendments, if that was your point. Remember, the Bill of Rights wer'e added to the Constitution to limit governments role - not give it power. The Bill of Rights tells the government what it can't do - not what it can do.


Listen to Obama the community organizer talk about the Constitution being a charter of negative liberties:

America is finally starting to awaken to this problem. The elections of 2012 will be huge. It will determine if America as it was founded will survive or not. Hopefully it's not too late.

RKSNASHVILLE,
You truly are a very wise, well-informed man with plenty of common sense and respect for what is best for the citizens of The United States Of America.



Jim
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More FREEDOM please, less government dictatorship. I appreciate a good country so let's not forget that the beginning of America's story is of so much more importance than how the liberals are trying to change things to accommodate their own agendas.

It looks like the [tea] baggers have hijacked this post. They are mostly talking to themselves. What they don't realize is 2012 is going to be a watershed election when the baggers and their ilk who are trying to destroy our country are going to get their walking papers. Maybe we ought to get back to talking about what we can agree on -- Elvis!

MT

It looks like the [tea] baggers have hijacked this post. They are mostly talking to themselves. What they don't realize is 2012 is going to be a watershed election when the baggers and their ilk who are trying to destroy our country are going to get their walking papers. Maybe we ought to get back to talking about what we can agree on -- Elvis!

MT

".... hijacked this post." ?! Do you mean "thread"?
This thread started out discussing a political figure. It should've already been moved to the Off Topic section, but what are you talking about when you say "hijacked"? RKSNASHVILLE just set the record straight for everyone!

chevyford, Keep telling yourself that and pretty soon you'll start believing it. You won't be so cocky on November 7, 2012.

MT