Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel mastering?
Moderators: FECC-Moderator, Moderator5, Moderator3, Site Mechanic
-
Topic author - Posts: 1661
- Registered for: 19 years 11 months
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel mastering?
How is the Lene Reidel mastering on discs 28-30? Reports are that the liner notes credit Reidel for mastering the Rarities discs 28-30. From the Steve Hoffman Forum:
"Discs 28-30 (the "rarities" discs) were mastered by Lene Reidel. And it separately credits "Disc 1: Thanks to Kevan Budd "for his research, restoration, and additional mastering on Elvis' Sun recordings."
"Discs 28-30 (the "rarities" discs) were mastered by Lene Reidel. And it separately credits "Disc 1: Thanks to Kevan Budd "for his research, restoration, and additional mastering on Elvis' Sun recordings."
-
- Posts: 5662
- Registered for: 20 years 1 month
- Location: MIDDLESEX
- Been thanked: 9 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
monkboughtlunch wrote:How is the Lene Reidel mastering on discs 28-30? Reports are that the liner notes credit Reidel for mastering the Rarities discs 28-30. From the Steve Hoffman Forum:
"Discs 28-30 (the "rarities" discs) were mastered by Lene Reidel. And it separately credits "Disc 1: Thanks to Kevan Budd "for his research, restoration, and additional mastering on Elvis' Sun recordings."
According to one poster on one of the other threads about this set, "Tweedle dee" and others sound 'worse' than the many previous issues of this same material.
-
- Posts: 631
- Registered for: 13 years 10 months
- Has thanked: 31 times
- Been thanked: 182 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
I haven't played the latter discs yet! only played disc 1 and 15.Disc 1 sun tracks are excellent the best i've heard them,but the speedway tracks on disc 15 sound no better to me than previous releases,Infact the best sounding speedway tracks i have heard were on my original vinyl album! I'm not one of these fans bashing which engineer mastered which tracks, I believe its how the original track was recorded.
-
- Posts: 9142
- Registered for: 12 years 11 months
- Location: Germany, pretty close to Bad Nauheim
- Has thanked: 1804 times
- Been thanked: 1140 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
(deleted - see guideline #2) crappy B-A-D sounding... at least the ones I listened to so far...
When the evening shadows fall
And you're wondering who to call
For a little company
There's always me
And you're wondering who to call
For a little company
There's always me
-
- Posts: 2554
- Registered for: 19 years 2 months
- Been thanked: 7 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
I'm not ready to assess everything.
My opinion is Lene does OK with decent source material, but her approach to problems seems to involve a hammer -- a 10-pound sledgehammer.
For sure, it's not all a straight copy of past work, though.
My opinion is Lene does OK with decent source material, but her approach to problems seems to involve a hammer -- a 10-pound sledgehammer.
For sure, it's not all a straight copy of past work, though.
Last edited by elvissessions on Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
Topic author - Posts: 1661
- Registered for: 19 years 11 months
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Yikes! I wish Jorgensen had pushed for Vic Anesini to remaster the 3 rarities discs in the box (28-30). Vic is awesome. A missed sonic opportunity on a definitive box set. I don't think anyone would count Lene Reidel in the top tier of the best mastering engineers. Given a primary differentiator / selling point of this box set is the sonic upgrade of the masters by Anesini, it seems odd that Lene Reidel's mediocre mastering skills would be employed for this release, albeit on only 3 of the CDs.
-
- Posts: 23517
- Registered for: 19 years 6 months
- Location: The Long and Winding Road
- Has thanked: 1364 times
- Been thanked: 3456 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.
-
Topic author - Posts: 1661
- Registered for: 19 years 11 months
- Has thanked: 62 times
- Been thanked: 141 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Perhaps Reidel has some incriminating photos of Jorgensen?midnightx wrote:Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.

-
- Posts: 5581
- Registered for: 15 years 5 months
- Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
- Mood:
- Has thanked: 1007 times
- Been thanked: 1840 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Hahahahahahahahamonkboughtlunch wrote:Perhaps Reidel has some incriminating photos of Jorgensen?midnightx wrote:Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.

Maybe he isn't a real blond

Note: This post is for readers of the FECC forum only. Permission to copy this post elsewhere is not granted.
-
- Posts: 15781
- Registered for: 17 years 1 month
- Has thanked: 4432 times
- Been thanked: 2993 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
and so what were the one's you listened to so far ?luckyjackson1 wrote:(deleted - see guideline #2) crappy B-A-D sounding... at least the ones I listened to so far...
-
- Suspended for one week
- Posts: 1597
- Registered for: 20 years
- Has thanked: 52 times
- Been thanked: 714 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
The rarities sound fine to me. Sure, some hiss is quite noticeable here and there,
but I'd rather have some hiss instead of having it denoised to death.
Obviously, many of these rarities were recorded under less than perfect circumstances,
and you can't expect miracles with these. But like I said, they sound fine to me, and in
a few cases I was pleasantly surprised,
but I'd rather have some hiss instead of having it denoised to death.
Obviously, many of these rarities were recorded under less than perfect circumstances,
and you can't expect miracles with these. But like I said, they sound fine to me, and in
a few cases I was pleasantly surprised,
-
- Posts: 15781
- Registered for: 17 years 1 month
- Has thanked: 4432 times
- Been thanked: 2993 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
midnightx wrote:Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.
lol, then here's a novel idea to the Reidel bashers , don't buy the releases. If the sales are poor that will send a message to Jorgensen and SONY to "Move over Ms R".
Why can't the wacker earlier on this thread be a little more specific as to which songs on disc 28-30 he felt were poor ?
-
- Posts: 10276
- Registered for: 14 years 1 month
- Has thanked: 213 times
- Been thanked: 1438 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
monkboughtlunch wrote:Perhaps Reidel has some incriminating photos of Jorgensen?midnightx wrote:Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.
My guess is that Lene and Ernst are really "close". That's all I'm going to say on this matter.
"If The Songs Don't Go Over With The Crowd, We Can Always Do A Medley Of Costumes."
Elvis A. Presley, 1970
Elvis A. Presley, 1970
-
- Posts: 15781
- Registered for: 17 years 1 month
- Has thanked: 4432 times
- Been thanked: 2993 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Now fellas don't start no rumours
It could be Lene is Ernst's apprentice.

It could be Lene is Ernst's apprentice.
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Hiss is a good thing in most cases. I'm A Roustabout is on cd 28 and the sample that elvissessions uploaded sounds better than the 2nd To None cd so it can't all be bad. Dark Moon is a disappointment but you can't win them all.Rock Legend wrote:The rarities sound fine to me. Sure, some hiss is quite noticeable here and there,
but I'd rather have some hiss instead of having it denoised to death.
-
- Previously banned member "Master of Muppets"
- Posts: 290
- Registered for: 13 years 10 months
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 9 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
I must say something here, I think Lene Reidel's mastering is probably one of the worst Sony/FTD ever release, and we have to put up with it just so EJ can continue to get his regular BJ.
This is not on, and this has to be spelt out to Ernst. This is a conflict of interest, we all know the mastering by Lene is of the opinion of many others to be in a word, utter rubbish, but as long as he needs her for his pleasure, Elvis mastering is going to take a toll for the worst. Ernst, shame on you, get your priorites right!. 


Last edited by memphisking on Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Previously banned member "Master of Muppets"
- Posts: 290
- Registered for: 13 years 10 months
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 9 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Trust me, I know my stuff, its all based on one thing, BJ, simple as that.TCB-FAN wrote:monkboughtlunch wrote:Perhaps Reidel has some incriminating photos of Jorgensen?midnightx wrote:Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.
My guess is that Lene and Ernst are really "close". That's all I'm going to say on this matter.
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
But do you think BJ has ever had an EJ? What about OJ?memphisking wrote:EJ can continue to get his regular BJ.
We all know that you "know your stuff," so we all await your reply on EJ, BJ, OJ and Lene.
-
- Previously banned member "Master of Muppets"
- Posts: 290
- Registered for: 13 years 10 months
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 9 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
I will refrain from posting any more commnets on this thread, this situation effects all fans (and professionally it should not ) this makes my blood boil.Rob wrote:But do you think BJ has ever had an EJ? What about OJ?memphisking wrote:EJ can continue to get his regular BJ.
We all know that "you know your stuff," so we all await your reply on EJ, BJ, OJ and Lene.



Last edited by memphisking on Sun Nov 07, 2010 4:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Don't think for one minute that we don't appreciate it.memphisking wrote:I will refrain from posting any more commnets on this thread
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
There are other Elvis forums more suited to your 'contributions', why not give one of them a try. Thanks.memphisking wrote:we have to put up with it just so EJ can continue to get his regular BJ.
This thread is in poor taste and is turning into the inevitable witch-hunt I thought it might have when I logged on. You guys can do better than this.
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
I almost want to start an Anesini vs. Reidel thread with sound samples and everything. In most cases the differences are smaller than one might think.
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Go for it! Some fans need to be brought by down to earth on this one.Claus wrote:I almost want to start an Anesini vs. Reidel thread with sound samples and everything. In most cases the differences are smaller than one might think.
-
- Posts: 23517
- Registered for: 19 years 6 months
- Location: The Long and Winding Road
- Has thanked: 1364 times
- Been thanked: 3456 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
Poor sales won't remove Reidel from future work, poor sales will alter the course of future archival projects.Robt wrote:midnightx wrote:Reidel's continued involvement with the catalogue is somewhat of a mystery, particularly on a release of this magnitude.
lol, then here's a novel idea to the Reidel bashers , don't buy the releases. If the sales are poor that will send a message to Jorgensen and SONY to "Move over Ms R".
Why can't the wacker earlier on this thread be a little more specific as to which songs on disc 28-30 he felt were poor ?
I have many times pointed out that Reidel's work isn't uniformly atrocious - but there has been enough inconsistency over the years to warrant the question as to why she was involved with a project of this magnitude with a primary focus on sound quality. Frankly, I don't care as I did not order this set, but it is an interesting situation.
-
- Posts: 9142
- Registered for: 12 years 11 months
- Location: Germany, pretty close to Bad Nauheim
- Has thanked: 1804 times
- Been thanked: 1140 times
Re: Elvis Complete Masters Box How is the Lene Reidel master
The "wacker" just started a new thread...Robt wrote:Why can't the wacker earlier on this thread be a little more specific as to which songs on disc 28-30 he felt were poor ?

When the evening shadows fall
And you're wondering who to call
For a little company
There's always me
And you're wondering who to call
For a little company
There's always me