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Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:44 am

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Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:37 am

No new updated figures on Elvis sales ?

Over the weekend, I saw a bunch of Elvis Presley titles re-stocked in our local Wal Mart and Target stores.

Wow, really quiet, especially coming off the 36th anniversary of his passing ....

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:13 pm

Any chartings or the Stax releases?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:13 pm

How well has Prince From Another Planet done to date?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:17 pm

According to http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/index.php?/topic/104695-the-beatles-elvis-presley-and-garth-brooksusa-album-sales/ Heart and Soul has sold 775,000 to date. Is this right? If so, it won't be long before it reaches Platinum status along with An Afternoon in the Garden.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:03 pm

garyt wrote:According to http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/index.php?/topic/104695-the-beatles-elvis-presley-and-garth-brooksusa-album-sales/ Heart and Soul has sold 775,000 to date. Is this right? If so, it won't be long before it reaches Platinum status along with An Afternoon in the Garden.


Yes, I believe so.

That's a very reputable and sophisticated website and most of, if not all, information posted there is studied and truthful.

The particular title you mentioned, "Heart And Soul", has been making a comeback, as far as Elvis releases are concerned.

In fact, after 18 years of release commercially, it just made the Billboard Top 200 in 2013 !

In it's first few years of release, it sold a respectable, very quiet 200,000 copies, but since it's affordable and much more attainable pricing has come into play within the last year or so, sales have been strong and consistent.

And let's not forget, it's a very attractive looking package and it's song selection strong.

Should go Platinum within a year or so ...

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:12 pm

There is very little chart action for our man, this is what I could find this week:

The "Heart & Soul" compilation re-entered the Billboard Album Top 200 at #187 this week.
The "The Real Elvis" re-entered the Irish Album chart at #79 after dropping off the chart last week.
The "Elvis At Stax" compilation climbed from #115 to #98 on the Belgian Album chart.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:42 am

K.C. wrote:There is very little chart action for our man, this is what I could find this week:

The "Heart & Soul" compilation re-entered the Billboard Album Top 200 at #187 this week.


Sheesh, this great cd is stumped , cannot get any higher than #182 ....

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:05 pm

Heart & Soul falls 2 to #189. It has only spent 6 weeks on the chart yet it has sold over 775,000. Quite impressive! Wonder how many other Elvis albums have sold well and yet haven't appeared on the charts?

Has Afternoon In The Garden been certified Gold yet?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:48 pm

garyt wrote:Heart & Soul falls 2 to #189. It has only spent 6 weeks on the chart yet it has sold over 775,000. Quite impressive! Wonder how many other Elvis albums have sold well and yet haven't appeared on the charts?


this is a prime example (as well as many others) why you should never read too much into the "charts"...elvis may not be in the top 40, but he is still selling :D

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:43 pm

I came to think of these two 1987 vinyl releases:
The Number One Hits 3 x Platinum
The Number Ten Hits 4 x Platinum (including the same tracks as The Number One Hits) :)

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Sun Sep 22, 2013 5:11 pm

Just saw that Elvis At Stax (deluxe) is on Spotify as well. Wonder what this does to sales numbers...

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:04 pm

No new updated figures on Elvis sales ?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:37 pm

kriss wrote:No new updated figures on Elvis sales ?


Unfortunately not.

Brian

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:46 pm

These are all the charts I could find:

    The CD "Heart & Soul" fell of the Billboard Album chart from week's listing at #189.
    The "ELV1S 30 #1 Hits" compilation remained steady at #10 on the Dutch Mid-price album chart.
    The "Elvis At Stax" set climbed from #163 to #141 on the Belgian Album chart.
    The "The Real Elvis" compilation dropped from #54 to # 69 on the Irish Album charts.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:27 pm

This just in!! Top Soundscan album selling artists since it began, in 1991


1) Garth Brooks 68,634,000
2) Beatles 64,300,000
3) Mariah Carey 54,000,000
4) Metallica 53,850,000
5) Celine Dion 51,800,000
6) George Strait 44,440,000
7) Eminem 42,307,000
8) Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000
10) Pink Floyd 37,228,000
11) Elvis Presley (35,550,000)
12) U2 (34,715,000)
13) Kenny G (34,248,000)
14) Shania Twain (34,250,000)
15) Michael Jackson (32,722,000)
16) Britney Spears (32,500,000)
17) AC/DC (31,901,000)
18) Aerosmith (31,702,000)
19) Pearl Jam (31,324,000)
20) Dave Matthews Band (31,151,000)

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:02 pm

Jaime1234 wrote:This just in!! Top Soundscan album selling artists since it began, in 1991


1) Garth Brooks 68,634,000
2) Beatles 64,300,000
3) Mariah Carey 54,000,000
4) Metallica 53,850,000
5) Celine Dion 51,800,000
6) George Strait 44,440,000
7) Eminem 42,307,000
8) Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000
10) Pink Floyd 37,228,000
11) Elvis Presley (35,550,000)
12) U2 (34,715,000)
13) Kenny G (34,248,000)
14) Shania Twain (34,250,000)
15) Michael Jackson (32,722,000)
16) Britney Spears (32,500,000)
17) AC/DC (31,901,000)
18) Aerosmith (31,702,000)
19) Pearl Jam (31,324,000)
20) Dave Matthews Band (31,151,000)


I`m quite sure that sony don`t mind those numbers at all...especially for an artist gone for over 36 yrs :D

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:02 am

They surely don't mind, as this includes every Elvis album that's available, although some may still be being released under the various RCA labels. They also have MJ's sales which, when combined with those of EP, make up for almost 67 million. However, as far as Soundscan is concerned, in other words, since 1991 only, SONY is surely behind EMI/Capitol' Records', whose Garth Brooks and Beatles tallies, when combined, are in excess of 134 million.

1) Garth Brooks 68,634,000
2) Beatles 64,300,000
3) Mariah Carey 54,000,000
4) Metallica 53,850,000
5) Celine Dion 51,800,000
6) George Strait 44,440,000
7) Eminem 42,307,000
Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000
10) Pink Floyd 37,228,000
11) Elvis Presley (35,550,000)
12) U2 (34,715,000)
13) Kenny G (34,248,000)
14) Shania Twain (34,250,000)
15) Michael Jackson (32,722,000)
16) Britney Spears (32,500,000)
17) AC/DC (31,901,000)
18) Aerosmith (31,702,000)
19) Pearl Jam (31,324,000)
20) Dave Matthews Band (31,151,000)

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:13 am

Jaime1234 wrote:They surely don't mind, as this includes every Elvis album that's available, although some may still be being released under the various RCA labels. They also have MJ's sales which, when combined with those of EP, make up for almost 67 million. However, as far as Soundscan is concerned, in other words, since 1991 only, SONY is surely behind EMI/Capitol' Records', whose Garth Brooks and Beatles tallies, when combined, are in excess of 134 million.

1) Garth Brooks 68,634,000
2) Beatles 64,300,000
3) Mariah Carey 54,000,000
4) Metallica 53,850,000
5) Celine Dion 51,800,000
6) George Strait 44,440,000
7) Eminem 42,307,000
Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000
10) Pink Floyd 37,228,000
11) Elvis Presley (35,550,000)
12) U2 (34,715,000)
13) Kenny G (34,248,000)
14) Shania Twain (34,250,000)
15) Michael Jackson (32,722,000)
16) Britney Spears (32,500,000)
17) AC/DC (31,901,000)
18) Aerosmith (31,702,000)
19) Pearl Jam (31,324,000)
20) Dave Matthews Band (31,151,000)


Is there any justification in saying that a fair bit of Elvis's sales were not picked up by soundscan for some or other reason and if so woud the same apply to other artists?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:39 am

Jaime1234 wrote:This just in!! Top Soundscan album selling artists since it began, in 1991

6) George Strait 44,440,000
8) Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000

Are these artists still making music? They're not well-known here in the UK, at least not by me.
Is Elvis outselling Pink Floyd or any of the artists above him? Hopefully he'll break in the top ten in a few years?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:19 am

I assure you that all three are still active, still making music and adding to their sales totals. George Strait is on his "Cowboy Rides Away" tour which is scheduled to last a couple of years. Then he plans to stop touring, but still play selected dates/venues. He will also continue to record.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:35 pm

Jaime1234 wrote:They surely don't mind, as this includes every Elvis album that's available, although some may still be being released under the various RCA labels. They also have MJ's sales which, when combined with those of EP, make up for almost 67 million. However, as far as Soundscan is concerned, in other words, since 1991 only, SONY is surely behind EMI/Capitol' Records', whose Garth Brooks and Beatles tallies, when combined, are in excess of 134 million.

1) Garth Brooks 68,634,000
2) Beatles 64,300,000
3) Mariah Carey 54,000,000
4) Metallica 53,850,000
5) Celine Dion 51,800,000
6) George Strait 44,440,000
7) Eminem 42,307,000
Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000
10) Pink Floyd 37,228,000
11) Elvis Presley (35,550,000)
12) U2 (34,715,000)
13) Kenny G (34,248,000)
14) Shania Twain (34,250,000)
15) Michael Jackson (32,722,000)
16) Britney Spears (32,500,000)
17) AC/DC (31,901,000)
18) Aerosmith (31,702,000)
19) Pearl Jam (31,324,000)
20) Dave Matthews Band (31,151,000)


Both these artist's totals are to November 2011. Elvis's total is to July 2013. The top 10 on that list is to March 2013
U2 and Jackson could be there or thereabouts Elvis's total.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:30 pm

FredAistair wrote:
Jaime1234 wrote:They surely don't mind, as this includes every Elvis album that's available, although some may still be being released under the various RCA labels. They also have MJ's sales which, when combined with those of EP, make up for almost 67 million. However, as far as Soundscan is concerned, in other words, since 1991 only, SONY is surely behind EMI/Capitol' Records', whose Garth Brooks and Beatles tallies, when combined, are in excess of 134 million.

1) Garth Brooks 68,634,000
2) Beatles 64,300,000
3) Mariah Carey 54,000,000
4) Metallica 53,850,000
5) Celine Dion 51,800,000
6) George Strait 44,440,000
7) Eminem 42,307,000
Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000
10) Pink Floyd 37,228,000
11) Elvis Presley (35,550,000)
12) U2 (34,715,000)
13) Kenny G (34,248,000)
14) Shania Twain (34,250,000)
15) Michael Jackson (32,722,000)
16) Britney Spears (32,500,000)
17) AC/DC (31,901,000)
18) Aerosmith (31,702,000)
19) Pearl Jam (31,324,000)
20) Dave Matthews Band (31,151,000)


Is there any justification in saying that a fair bit of Elvis's sales were not picked up by soundscan for some or other reason and if so woud the same apply to other artists?


Yes. In the U.S.A. record sales are tracked by the Recording Industry Association of America (R.I.A.A.) in conjunction with NIELSEN SOUNDSCAN, an airplay and retailer monitoring body founded in 1991. Nielsen SoundScan data is collected weekly from over 14,000 point-of-sale cash registers at retail and non-traditional outlets, such as venues and on-line stores. Digital downloads have been tracked since July, 2003. The compiled data is made available every Wednesday. In order to report sales, retailers are required to have Internet access and a Point-of-Sale Inventory System. Record labels have to pay a $500.00 annual fee in order to report their artists’ sales at venues. However, not every single sale is counted due to the facts that lots of small, independent retailers do not use SoundScan. Because of confidentiality agreements with participating retailers, SoundScan will not supply a list of reporting outlets.

SoundScan is a tremendous improvement but has not been immune to inaccuracy and manipulation. Because some retailers choose not to use SoundScan, sales from certain participating outlets are “weighted,” meaning the one 'Saves the Day' CD you purchased is reported as three. The idea behind weighting is to make-up for sales at non-participating stores. This system has allowed major labels to artificially inflate sales for years. A few years ago, some record labels paid third-party firms to ship boxes of free CD's to independent retailers, who then scanned the CD's as bogus sales. Because it was a weighted store, each scan counted as a multiple “sale.” The labels did not profit financially from the scam, but they got to boast of their artists’ hefty weekly sales.

The next time you attend an in-store performance by your favorite artist, chances are it’s at a weighted store. The label knows that when fans purchase the record at the in-store, it is scanned as a multiple sale. In addition, the label will invite that weighted store to sell the record at the venue later that night. Again, the store reports the weighted sale as its own and not a venue sale, which is not weighted. This does not mean that venue sales cannot be easily manipulated. Venue sales are reported by filling out a form and not by scanning bar codes, and thus, the sales figures can be artificially increased. The labels know that high SoundScan numbers will lead to more press for their artists, which will most likely result in more sales.

Critics of Soundscan say that it has contributed to the record label shift from being artist-driven to the instant hit. Pre-Soundscan, the Billboard chart was dominated by established artists. The weekly Soundscan reports have allowed new artists to make explosive, albeit, short-lived chart appearances. The weekly numbers allow labels to see which artists are showing strong sales, and thus, which artists are worth promoting for the long-term. If a band’s Soundscan numbers drop, their support from the label most likely will as well. Low Soundscan numbers can completely kill the normal life cycle of a record. Now you can see why those afternoon in-store performances (at a weighted store) are so vital.

Soundscan is a major improvement over estimated sales and radio airplay lists. And while manipulating Soundscan numbers is not illegal, the results are not always entirely accurate either.


Brian

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:40 pm

Brian Quinn wrote:Yes. In the U.S.A. record sales are tracked by the Recording Industry Association of America (R.I.A.A.) in conjunction with NIELSEN SOUNDSCAN, an airplay and retailer monitoring body founded in 1991. Nielsen SoundScan data is collected weekly from over 14,000 point-of-sale cash registers at retail and non-traditional outlets, such as venues and on-line stores. Digital downloads have been tracked since July, 2003. The compiled data is made available every Wednesday. In order to report sales, retailers are required to have Internet access and a Point-of-Sale Inventory System. Record labels have to pay a $500.00 annual fee in order to report their artists’ sales at venues. However, not every single sale is counted due to the facts that lots of small, independent retailers do not use SoundScan. Because of confidentiality agreements with participating retailers, SoundScan will not supply a list of reporting outlets.

SoundScan is a tremendous improvement but has not been immune to inaccuracy and manipulation. Because some retailers choose not to use SoundScan, sales from certain participating outlets are “weighted,” meaning the one 'Saves the Day' CD you purchased is reported as three. The idea behind weighting is to make-up for sales at non-participating stores. This system has allowed major labels to artificially inflate sales for years. A few years ago, some record labels paid third-party firms to ship boxes of free CD's to independent retailers, who then scanned the CD's as bogus sales. Because it was a weighted store, each scan counted as a multiple “sale.” The labels did not profit financially from the scam, but they got to boast of their artists’ hefty weekly sales.

The next time you attend an in-store performance by your favorite artist, chances are it’s at a weighted store. The label knows that when fans purchase the record at the in-store, it is scanned as a multiple sale. In addition, the label will invite that weighted store to sell the record at the venue later that night. Again, the store reports the weighted sale as its own and not a venue sale, which is not weighted. This does not mean that venue sales cannot be easily manipulated. Venue sales are reported by filling out a form and not by scanning bar codes, and thus, the sales figures can be artificially increased. The labels know that high SoundScan numbers will lead to more press for their artists, which will most likely result in more sales.

Critics of Soundscan say that it has contributed to the record label shift from being artist-driven to the instant hit. Pre-Soundscan, the Billboard chart was dominated by established artists. The weekly Soundscan reports have allowed new artists to make explosive, albeit, short-lived chart appearances. The weekly numbers allow labels to see which artists are showing strong sales, and thus, which artists are worth promoting for the long-term. If a band’s Soundscan numbers drop, their support from the label most likely will as well. Low Soundscan numbers can completely kill the normal life cycle of a record. Now you can see why those afternoon in-store performances (at a weighted store) are so vital.

Soundscan is a major improvement over estimated sales and radio airplay lists. And while manipulating Soundscan numbers is not illegal, the results are not always entirely accurate either.


Brian


sounds like payola all over again :wink:where`s Alan Freed

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:56 pm

garyt wrote:
Jaime1234 wrote:This just in!! Top Soundscan album selling artists since it began, in 1991

6) George Strait 44,440,000
8) Tim McGraw 41,599,000
9) Alan Jackson 40,000,000

Are these artists still making music? They're not well-known here in the UK, at least not by me.
Is Elvis outselling Pink Floyd or any of the artists above him? Hopefully he'll break in the top ten in a few years?



Country music has a following in the UK - but appreciation is more the classic artists or the home-grown performers, so most of today's big stars in America will remain almost unknown in the UK. In fact they, are so obscure that in the tv quiz "Pointless", you probably would't even be asked to list Garth Brooks's songs! In America, country is a major seller (I think it used to vie with Hip Hop for No.1 position in terms of biggest genre). There are a huge number of country stations and they are across most states, playing all styles of country, with many playing the contemporary sounds and artists. Alan Jackson has such a popularity that there are countless more platinum awards left in him, as there are for Tim Mcgraw. A platinum George Strait album is almost the norm, and he seems to be guaranteed at least Gold awards and perhaps even Billboard 200 (ie pop) chart-toppers for any of his future album releases.

So, these particular artists will easily increase their sales.

Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" is still selling, and any retrospectives will probably enter the top 10, so Pink Floyd will very likely stay ahead of EP for many years.