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Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:31 pm

ML4EP wrote:Does anyone have any figures for PFAP? Just curious what it sold with all the promo it got last year on release.


In the UK it sold around 2,300 copies in it's first week of sale. There were only 5,000 copies printed. Unfortunately I do not have sales figures for the U.S.A.

Brian

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:51 pm

Brian Quinn wrote:Elvis had no albums on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart for w/e 20th July, 2013.

The following albums appeared on the Catalog Album Chart:

'Heart And Soul' rose from 77 to 68 selling some 2,085 units. Total sales to date: 657,092 units. It also rose from 153 to 133 on the Physical Album Chart selling some 2,084 units. Total Physical sales to date: 656,515 units. It also rose from 78 to 70 on the SMEI (Sony Music Entertainment International) Chart.

'Elvis: 30 No.1 Hits' re-enters at 87 selling some 1,914 units. Total sales to date:4,865,793 units. It also entered the Digital Album Chart at 132 selling some 1,409 units. Total Digital sales to date: 157,771 units. It also rose from 270 to 78 on the SMEI (Sony Music Entertainment International) Chart.

'An Afternoon In The Garden' rose from 106 to 100 selling some 1,812 units. Total sales to date: 564,843 units. It also rose from 177 to 166 on the Physical Album Chart selling some 1,811 units. Total Physical sales to date: 563,835 units. It also rose from 92 to 82 on the SMEI (Sony Music Entertainment International) Chart.

'Elvis Inspirational' (Compilation) rose from 153 to 143 selling some 1,556 units. Total sales to date: 164,922 units.

'The Essential Elvis Presley' (Double CD) rose from 172 to 147 selling some 1,529 units. Total sales to date: 512,284 units.

'Elvis Country' (Compilation) rose from 184 to 180 selling some 1,419 units. Total sales to date: 192,807 units.

'The Very Best Of Love' dropped from 181 to 196 selling some 1,360 units. Total sales to date: 369,894 units.

The following DVD's appeared on the Top Music Video Chart:

'Elvis: He Touched Me' (Vol.1) re-enters at 7 selling some 947 units. Total sales to date: 221,677 units.

'Elvis Lives' (Live From Memphis) re-enters at 8 selling some 765 units. Total sales to date: 171,872 units.

'Elvis On Tour' drops from 8 to 19 selling some 427 units. Total sales to date: 12,699 units.

'Viva Las Vegas' rose from 99 to 86 on the Top Soundtrack Album Chart selling some 306 units. Total sales to date: 60,198 units.

Brian

I just drove from New Hampshire to Florida, stopping at the occasional Walmart for driving music, and can tell you that most of these titles ("Afternoon In The Garden", the "Elvis Country" comp., etc.) can be found in the $5 bin.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:03 pm

That seems to be the magic price for selling cds. They chart too. Back in the pre-digital days a physical product had to sell for a minimum amount to count on the charts. Seems not to matter these days.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Sat Jul 13, 2013 3:15 pm

ML4EP wrote:Does anyone have any figures for PFAP? Just curious what it sold with all the promo it got last year on release.


From my notes, "Prince From Another Planet" sold 3.5k week ending November 21, 2012, for a peak position of #187 on the Billboard Top 200.

According to the RIAA rules, they count the two cd's included, which, up until June 2013, has scanned 12,500 copies for a total of 35,000.

Hope this helps.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:00 am

No new update.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:28 pm

Elvis had no albums on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart for w/e 10th August, 2013.

The following albums appeared on the Catalog Album Chart:

'Heart And Soul' remains at 65 selling some 2,023 units. Total sales to date: 662,838 units. It also rose from 125 to 119 on the Physical Album Chart selling some 2,023 units. Total Physical sales to date: 662,261 units. It also rose from 70 to 67 on the SMEI (Sony Music Entertainment International) Chart.

'An Afternoon In The Garden' rose from 105 to 98 selling some 1,698 units. Total sales to date: 569,758 units. It also rose from 172 to 158 on the Physical Album Chart selling some 1,698 units. Total Physical sales to date: 568,748 units. It also rose from 86 to 82 on the SMEI (Sony Music Entertainment International) Chart.

'Elvis Inspirational' (Compilation) rose from 148 to 140 selling some 1,446 units. Total sales to date: 169,135 units.

'Elvis Country' (Compilation) dropped from 154 to 177 selling some 1,276 units. Total sales to date: 196,636 units.

'The Essential Elvis Presley' (Double CD) dropped from 175 to 193 selling some 1,240 units. Total sales to date: 516,210 units.

'Elvis: 30 No.1 Hits' has sold 4,868,114 units to date.

The following DVD appeared on the Top Music Video Chart:

'Elvis: He Touched Me' (Vol.1) drops from 40 to 50 selling some 161 units. Total sales to date: 222,140 units.

Brian

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:18 pm

There was a time when an album was gold when it reached $1millon in retail sales, regardless of the units sold. In the 50s and 60s mono LPs were $3.98 and stereo LPs were $4.98. So it was easier for a predominately Stereo issue to become gold before a predominately mono issue. The single LP prices pretty much peaked at $9.98 in the early 90s and CDs came out around $15.98-$17.98. The first LPs I noticed to reach $5.98 or $6.98 were The Beatles Abbey Road and Let It Be. So the stereo LP's first price hike started around 69-70 (barring the Premium issues prior to 1969, of course)
So, it would not take as many units sold such as an LP box set such as Worldwide Gold Awards Hits to reach Gold status as it would From Elvis In Memphis.

I am not sure when units sold vs retail sales became the standard for albums, does anyone here?

Also a gold 45 required one million units sold from the 50s to the 70s. Now a single only requires 1/2 million units to become gold, and a million is considered platinum..which is also the modern standard for an album.

45 EPs during Elvis lifetime have been on singles charts, LP charts and a separate EP charts, depending on year.

I wonder if the requirement changes were implemented retroactively? I mean there are Elvis LPs that have reached $1 million in sales that have not been certified gold because they have not sold over 1/2 million copies.


For example, when Gold LPs were still being awarded based on $1millon in sales. In 1965 on the back of Elvis For Everyone are all his LPs to date that have made at least $1millon in sales. And comparing these to the LPs that were awarded Gold in "A Life In Music" book there are those that sold $1million by 1965 that have not been awarded gold by 1998:

King Creole
Elvis Is Back
Something For Everybody
Fun In Acapulco


Based on a $3.98 for mono and a $4.98 for stereo retail price, it would only take 223,000 units sold to become gold. Not 500,000 units which became the standard way after the 1960s.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:53 pm

Check back on tuesday afternoon for an up/date on the Essential Elvis double LP making it into the Billboard 200. Apparently, the price is quite accesible, so according to Hits daily Double, it is slated to land inside the top 40 along with other LP's whose prices are also reduced. See it at number 35, with a little bit than more than two thirds of the tallies already counted in, or almost 7,000 copies sold.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:58 pm

Thank you for keeping us updated Jamie, Brian and others. I find Elvis on going sales very interesting.
I wonder if it's the casual buyer that's buying Essential Elvis or fans?
It's a bit disappointing that Johnny Cash' album is outselling Essential Elvis. Overall, do you know if Elvis outsells Cash?

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:52 pm

Here's E's sales between Nov 2011 to July 2013 - 1.89million.. according to S-scan. Averaging 22,600 per week in the US over this period.

Since 1991 to 2013; Elvis has sold 35.55m, with Cash as of August last year sitting with 24m albums sold.

http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=22680

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:05 pm

Jaime1234 wrote:Check back on tuesday afternoon for an up/date on the Essential Elvis double LP making it into the Billboard 200. Apparently, the price is quite accesible, so according to Hits daily Double, it is slated to land inside the top 40 along with other LP's whose prices are also reduced. See it at number 35, with a little bit than more than two thirds of the tallies already counted in, or almost 7,000 copies sold.

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi



Very interesting !!! Thanks for the heads up.

The pricing has certainly played a role in three (3) other Legacy/Essential titles included in the Top 40.

If true, and sales stay steady, this will end up being another Top 40 title for our guy and completely outstrip it's original debut, and it's #72 peak in '07 !!!

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:02 pm

skatterbrane wrote: I am not sure when units sold vs retail sales became the standard for albums, does anyone here?


The change from dollar amounts to units sold was established in 1975.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:16 pm

Pete Dube wrote:
skatterbrane wrote: I am not sure when units sold vs retail sales became the standard for albums, does anyone here?


The change from dollar amounts to units sold was established in 1975.


Thank you!

Then there should have been a lot more Elvis LPs making Gold! Certainly almost all of them released before 1973 grossed $1Mil in sales by 1975. (unless they applied the rules retroactively)

Most of his 70s LPs sold at least 250,000-300,000 copies. And they retailed for $5.98 to $7.98.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:39 pm

The number of albums that Johnny Cash has to sell before he overtakes Presley in the US varies, depending on whether you are talking about Soundscan or as per the RIAA. That´s 12 million by the former, and more than 100 million by the latter. LOL. The unvarnished truth is that in 9 out of the 12 months of the year, Johnny´s main albums sell more than those of Elvis, at least the ones that sell enough for us to know about the exact Soundscan figures, as each week passes by. But in the Christmas period, and in the weeks prior, whatever yearly gains he´s established over Presley are offset so it´s not even a close call. The movie "Walk the line" did a wonderful job to awaken some, to his magic, and he certainly deserves all the additional accolades he´s gotten since, but of all the solo singers who trail Presley in records sold overall, in the US, he´s not even in the top 30. Worldwide, he certainly fares much worse.

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:57 pm

Here´s the list of those of who ( that I know for certain, that is) , that while outselling Presley in the US this week, have nevertheless expressed their huge admiration for him, or started their careers either because of him or with him in mind. It is midboggling...

3 JAY Z ROC-A-FELLA/ROC NATION 47,571
MAGNA CARTA... HOLY GRAIL
4 BACKSTREET BOYS BSB 39,680
IN A WORLD LIKE THIS
12 BRUNO MARS ATLANTIC 14,454
UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX
13 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 13,282
BASED ON A TRUE STORY
16 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE RCA 12,264
20/20 EXPERIENCE
18 BILLY JOEL COLUMBIA 11,593
THE ESSENTIAL BILLY JOEL
19 ROLLING STONES ABKCO 11,180
HOT ROCKS (1964-1971)
20 CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL FANTASY 10,777
CHRONICLE: 20 GREATEST HITS
22 FLEETWOOD MAC WARNER BROS. 9,917
GREATEST HITS
24 MARC ANTHONY SONY MUSIC LATIN 9,354
3.0
25 QUEEN HOLLYWOOD 9,019
GREATEST HITS
26 J OHNNY CASH LEGACY 8,075
THE ESSENTIAL JOHNNY CASH
33 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/DEF JAM/IDJ 6,921
YEEZUS34

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:45 pm

Elvis Presley has JUST made it inside BILLBOARD''S Top 40, once more!!!!!!!!! Landing JUST at number 40, this week, is "The Essential Elvis Presley" , currently a Gold album according to the RIAA, and which should have already been up-graded to Platinum, as it has sold in excess of 500,000 copies, and is a double album. Now, there are times, very few in fact, when Billboard and Hits Daily Double charts differ, by one or two places, either up, or down, so we must await for OFFICIAL confirmation AND THAT WILL BE revealed on Thursday's Billboard 200 countdown, which appears onbline at 7 am, EDT Here's the item

http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/sales/salescht.cgi

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:24 pm

With our luck, the title will peak at #41 !!!

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:37 pm

oh how the music industry has changed...or should I say declined...selling 8,709 copies and making #41, 40 or 39 (we will see) on the charts...my question would be how many copies would an artist have to sell to make this position in 1977...the times have certainly changed, will Elvis At Stax debut next week?? How I long for the good ol days when the charts actually mattered :facep:

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:49 pm

Also looking good for 'Elvis At Stax' next week if the Amazon Sales Charts are anything to go by.

Brian

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:11 pm

Brian Quinn wrote:Also looking good for 'Elvis At Stax' next week if the Amazon Sales Charts are anything to go by.

Brian



Which version, the single disc ? or the "Deluxe Edition" ?

I just got mine last nite and so far Ima luvin it !!!

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:57 pm

minkahed wrote:
Brian Quinn wrote:Also looking good for 'Elvis At Stax' next week if the Amazon Sales Charts are anything to go by.

Brian



Which version, the single disc ? or the "Deluxe Edition" ?

I just got mine last nite and so far Ima luvin it !!!


Yes, It's a great release.

Deluxe Edition. Current sales rankings on Amazon as follows:

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #25 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
#1 in Music > Pop > Oldies > General
#14 in Music > Rock

Brian

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:44 pm

Brian Quinn wrote:
minkahed wrote:
Brian Quinn wrote:Also looking good for 'Elvis At Stax' next week if the Amazon Sales Charts are anything to go by.

Brian



Which version, the single disc ? or the "Deluxe Edition" ?

I just got mine last nite and so far Ima luvin it !!!


Yes, It's a great release.

Deluxe Edition. Current sales rankings on Amazon as follows:

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #25 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
#1 in Music > Pop > Oldies > General
#14 in Music > Rock

Brian


I SORT OF KNEW IT!!THE ESSENTIAL ELVIS PRESLEY RE/ENTERS, BUT AT 42!! DAMM LUCK!!

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:09 am

Jaime1234 wrote:
Brian Quinn wrote:
minkahed wrote:
Brian Quinn wrote:Also looking good for 'Elvis At Stax' next week if the Amazon Sales Charts are anything to go by.

Brian



Which version, the single disc ? or the "Deluxe Edition" ?

I just got mine last nite and so far Ima luvin it !!!


Yes, It's a great release.

Deluxe Edition. Current sales rankings on Amazon as follows:

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #25 in Music (See Top 100 in Music)
#1 in Music > Pop > Oldies > General
#14 in Music > Rock

Brian


I SORT OF KNEW IT!!THE ESSENTIAL ELVIS PRESLEY RE/ENTERS, BUT AT 42!! DAMM LUCK!!



Told ya ...

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:57 pm

For what it's worth..
Elvis at #39 and #62

http://www.irma.ie/aucharts.asp

Re: SoundScan (US) sales-figures

Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:27 pm

Jaime1234 wrote:Here´s the list of those of who ( that I know for certain, that is) , that while outselling Presley in the US this week, have nevertheless expressed their huge admiration for him, or started their careers either because of him or with him in mind. It is midboggling...

3 JAY Z ROC-A-FELLA/ROC NATION 47,571
MAGNA CARTA... HOLY GRAIL
4 BACKSTREET BOYS BSB 39,680
IN A WORLD LIKE THIS
12 BRUNO MARS ATLANTIC 14,454
UNORTHODOX JUKEBOX
13 BLAKE SHELTON WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 13,282
BASED ON A TRUE STORY
16 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE RCA 12,264
20/20 EXPERIENCE
18 BILLY JOEL COLUMBIA 11,593
THE ESSENTIAL BILLY JOEL
19 ROLLING STONES ABKCO 11,180
HOT ROCKS (1964-1971)
20 CREEDENCE CLEARWATER REVIVAL FANTASY 10,777
CHRONICLE: 20 GREATEST HITS
22 FLEETWOOD MAC WARNER BROS. 9,917
GREATEST HITS
24 MARC ANTHONY SONY MUSIC LATIN 9,354
3.0
25 QUEEN HOLLYWOOD 9,019
GREATEST HITS
26 J OHNNY CASH LEGACY 8,075
THE ESSENTIAL JOHNNY CASH
33 KANYE WEST ROC-A-FELLA/DEF JAM/IDJ 6,921
YEEZUS34



These figures represent exactly how "off" hitsdailydouble can actually be.

"The Essential Billy Joel" re-enters the chart at #15, this is the album’s highest ranking to date. It originally peaked at #29 in 2001.

The Rolling Stones’ "Hot Rocks 1964-1971" (which re-enters at #18), Fleetwood Mac’s "Greatest Hits" (which vaults from #172 to #29), Queen’s "Greatest Hits" (which re-enters at #33) and, of course, Elvis Presley "The Essential Elvis Presley", (listed as being #40), re-enters at #42.
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