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Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:24 pm

The Beatles catalogue has been handled much more carefully than Elvis catalogue. Beatles has not filled the market with new compilations every year. Currently Beatles has only 3 compilations sets on the market; Beatles 1, Red Album and Blue Album. The latter 2 were originally released in 1973 and on cd in 1993. The remastered sets are being released this year for the Xmas market. The Beatles record sales have thus been concenrated on these few albums and have higher sales than individual Elvis compilations which are numerous. Also The Beatles has always been very clever in the way they market their products.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:58 pm

Thanks for the figures ...

"Elvis '56" should have a much bigger seller.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:04 pm

minkahed wrote:Thanks for the figures ...

"Elvis '56" should have a much bigger seller.


It's from 1991 onwards, I think it's pretty accurate.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:12 pm

ECC83 wrote:
minkahed wrote:Thanks for the figures ...

"Elvis '56" should have a much bigger seller.


It's from 1991 onwards, I think it's pretty accurate.


I'm aware of this fact, Thank You.

I never said otherwise, but it still should have been a bigger seller from '91 on.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:05 pm

minkahed wrote:
ECC83 wrote:
minkahed wrote:Thanks for the figures ...

"Elvis '56" should have a much bigger seller.


It's from 1991 onwards, I think it's pretty accurate.


I'm aware of this fact, Thank You.

I never said otherwise, but it still should have been a bigger seller from '91 on.


Why should it be bigger?

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:40 pm

Club sales would add somewhat to the total for this piece,as music clubs were still going strong in the late 90s.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:02 am

Three new soundscan numbers (1991-Oct 6 2010):

- (1982) Memories Of Christmas 73,000
- (1984) Rocker 84,000
- (1989) Christmas Classics 245,000

Regards,
Martin

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:16 pm

"An Afternoon in the Garden" has sold enough to enter the catalogue chart this week...

193 PRESLEY*ELVIS AFTERNOON IN THE GARDEN 968 19 812 194,552

Soundscan total 194,552.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:29 pm

Can anyone think of a reason why "An Afternoon in the Garden" should make its first chart appearance since being release in March 1997?

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:45 am

stupot wrote:Can anyone think of a reason why "An Afternoon in the Garden" should make its first chart appearance since being release in March 1997?


Because it can be found in Wal-Mart bargain bins for $5.00. No B.S. That's the plain truth. I saw several copies at a Wal-Mart along with several of the Genre CDs that came out only a few years ago. Where on earth these copies of "An Afternoon In The Garden" came from I don't know as I haven't seen that many copies of that title in years. One would have to think that Sony had an overstock of that title and is trying to eliminate that title, possibly with their eye towards producing a Legacy set of both Madison Square Garden Shows along with a DVD of the press conference and the professional footage that was shot.

Daryl

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:01 pm

Daryl wrote:
stupot wrote:Can anyone think of a reason why "An Afternoon in the Garden" should make its first chart appearance since being release in March 1997?


Because it can be found in Wal-Mart bargain bins for $5.00. No B.S. That's the plain truth. I saw several copies at a Wal-Mart along with several of the Genre CDs that came out only a few years ago. Where on earth these copies of "An Afternoon In The Garden" came from I don't know as I haven't seen that many copies of that title in years. One would have to think that Sony had an overstock of that title and is trying to eliminate that title, possibly with their eye towards producing a Legacy set of both Madison Square Garden Shows along with a DVD of the press conference and the professional footage that was shot.

Daryl


Thanks Daryl. That makes sense!

I wondered if it was because retailers were re-stocking Elvis product in general because of Christmas and, to meet anticipated demand following the Viva Elvis media blitz (if there is gonna be one of course). I also thought it may be some sort of tie-in to do with the EOT DVD release.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:12 pm

From this week's Billboard charts:

CATALOG CHART (Sales to Oct 24, 2010, Chart Issue Date Nov 6, 2010)

85 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis 30 #1 Hits" 1,477 -6 1,567 4,681,401
193 ELVIS PRESLEY - "An Afternoon In The Garden" 968 19 812 194,552

HOLIDAY ALBUM CHART (Sales to Oct 24, 2010, Chart Issue Date Nov 6, 2010)

33 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis' Christmas" 400 112 189 433,372
54 ELVIS PRESLEY - "It's Christmas Time" 228 84 124 1,230,018
76 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis Christmas Duets" 170 247 49 416,745

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:53 pm

I am no expert friends, and whilst I cannot comment on specific figures my reading into the subject of Soundscan tells me as follows.
Leaving aside the issue of pre soundscan data,
When soundscan started it did not have the wide coverge it now has.
Soundscan does not cover sales made via record clubs and those made through 3rd party liscences.
Sales through the Christian Shops may not be included in their figures and those from shops outside Graceland are not within the soundscan system to this day.
I've no idea how this effects Elvis's sales figure, but the potential for significant under reporting of Elvis sales surely exists here.
Are other artists likely to be effected in the same way? I wonder.
:?:

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:06 am

Mael wrote:From this week's Billboard charts:

CATALOG CHART (Sales to Oct 24, 2010, Chart Issue Date Nov 6, 2010)

85 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis 30 #1 Hits" 1,477 -6 1,567 4,681,401
193 ELVIS PRESLEY - "An Afternoon In The Garden" 968 19 812 194,552

HOLIDAY ALBUM CHART (Sales to Oct 24, 2010, Chart Issue Date Nov 6, 2010)

33 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis' Christmas" 400 112 189 433,372
54 ELVIS PRESLEY - "It's Christmas Time" 228 84 124 1,230,018
76 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis Christmas Duets" 170 247 49 416,745


Forgive my ignorance, but what do those black numbers after the title and before the green numbers stand for?

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:34 am

Jove wrote:
Mael wrote:From this week's Billboard charts:

CATALOG CHART (Sales to Oct 24, 2010, Chart Issue Date Nov 6, 2010)

85 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis 30 #1 Hits" 1,477 -6 1,567 4,681,401
193 ELVIS PRESLEY - "An Afternoon In The Garden" 968 19 812 194,552

HOLIDAY ALBUM CHART (Sales to Oct 24, 2010, Chart Issue Date Nov 6, 2010)

33 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis' Christmas" 400 112 189 433,372
54 ELVIS PRESLEY - "It's Christmas Time" 228 84 124 1,230,018
76 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis Christmas Duets" 170 247 49 416,745


Forgive my ignorance, but what do those black numbers after the title and before the green numbers stand for?


Example:

33 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis' Christmas" 400 112 189 433,372

Green = Total sales
Blue = This week's sales
Red = Last week's sales
Purple = % change in sales from last week (in this case +112%)

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:39 am

From this week's Billboard charts:

Billboard 200 (week ending 11/12/2010):
112 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Elvis' Christmas" 11,389 24 9,211 462,526
139 ELVIS PRESLEY - "It's Christmas Time" 8,873 13 7,862 1,251,213

Top Current Albums (week ending 11/12/2010):
170 ELVIS PRESLEY - "Viva Elvis" 4,784 -15 5,616 23,781

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:29 am

Oh Dear!

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:44 am

While I wouldn't think the fan clubs would make much of a difference, I would imagine the lack of Graceland sales make a huge difference. If approx. 500,000 fans go there every year, I'm betting most buy at least one album from the shops there (although it could be an FTD). I know when I went at 13 (before FTDs existed) I bought 4 or 5 Elvis albums I thought were "rare" at the time (In Person and On Stage were two of them). My guess is the success of the XMas Duets would weigh as heavily on Sony's mind as the failure of Viva when it comes to greenlighting future releases. So, no "Viva 2," but the "Duets" album is probably still a go (I have no inside info, just a guess...)

I for one don't really care if Elvis outsells the Beatles or MJ or whomever, but I do wish his legacy was handled in a better way. I think the "Legacy" releases are a great way to introduce casual fans to the actual albums he released, as well as giving them a better view of what kind of an artist he was. I work at Best Buy, and we generally only have Viva Elvis, Elvis 30 #1 Hits, Essential Elvis, Elvis 75 (the one-disc version) and Ultimate Gospel. We have also one copy of FEIM Legacy that hasn't sold in the last year. Most are a fine intro, but casual fans want to be able to find some variety, and most hit the net. When I look through Elvis' albums on Amazon, even I am overwhelmed by how many comps (greatest hits, XMas, Movies and Genre) there are. It would be great if Sony would make it a point to only release Legacy type reissues f classic albums, and use the 30 #1s and 2nd to None as the "intro" CDs to casual fans. BTW...I would think a younger fan would be more impressed with disc 1 of the Legacy FEIM than 30 #1s, but that is just my opinion.

For the record, I think Essential Elvis is a better "one stop shop" intro for casual fans...but agree with several posters who have pointed out that when a casual fan wants a Beatles intro albums, they can choose from 3 hits albums. When someone wants to sample Elvis, there are dozens, if not hundreds.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:04 am

now that "Viva Elvis" has tanked like the turd that it is, maybe Ernst and co. can start putting their efforts together into releasing some quality, authentic, original Elvis Prelsey recordings thru Sony's beautiful "Legacy" deluxe edition albums.

P.S.-Mael, do you any other updated sales figures for some more Elvis titles, "Elvis Live" (Genre), or "Elvis '56", pre and post soundscan ????

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:14 am

I can never understand why some people would want to emulate the Apple treatment of The Beatles.

Imagine that!

No FTD releases.

No live shows.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:24 am

KiwiAlan wrote:I can never understand why some people would want to emulate the Apple treatment of The Beatles.

Imagine that!

No FTD releases.

No live shows.


I hope you didn't infer that from my post. I love the FTD releases for the fans. I prefer how Apple treats the Beatles catalogue for the general fans...Sony would be wise to cut the greatest hits and Xmas comps and focus on quality mainsream releases while STILL releasing the FTDS as they do now...for the hardcore fans.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:56 am

Thanks for all the great info Mael

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Wed May 11, 2011 9:38 pm

Does anyone have any updated sales figures on "An Afternoon In The Garden" ???

Thanks.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Thu May 12, 2011 7:51 am

Oh well ...

I just looked it up over at Bilboard.com and the cd is apparently still selling ok.

It is currently position #88.

The disc scanned 194,000 by Oct. 2010.

Surely, by now, with 7months passed and 7 weeks on the Billboard chart, the cd should have passed the 200,000 mark.

Re: Here's a couple of "up-to-date" SoundScan (US) sales-fig

Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:20 pm

minkahed wrote: P.S.-Mael, do you have any other updated sales figures for some more Elvis titles, "Elvis Live" (Genre), or "Elvis '56", pre and post soundscan ????