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Below are highlights from a tribute page on Elvis engineer Dave Wiechman, made by his daughter Audrey.

Dave worked with Elvis on at more than a dozen sessions at Radio Recorders between 1962 and 1966, all for movie soundtracks. You may hear his voice on any number of outtakes from these sessions.

It was interesting to learn Wiechman was a professional actor before and after his engineering work:

David Wiley
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Clem David Wiechman - Engineer, Actor


David Wiechman moved to California to pursue his acting career. His first job was as the man going to the electric chair in the classic film “Beyond A Reasonable Doubt.” Soon thereafter he landed a recurring role on "Hogan’s Heroes."

He took the stage name "Wiley" because he thought it would be easier to pronounce and spell than his given name… Much to his dismay, on his first interview, the secretary asked "Is that spelled W-Y-L-I-E?"

He took a night job at ABC Messenger Service to support himself between acting roles; one of his nightly pickups was at the infamous Radio Recorders recording studio here in Hollywood. Soon he was working at Radio, first as an assistant engineer and then as a "mixer." Because of his musicianship, outstanding ear and technical talent, he became quite well known, and was sought after by composers and artists in all fields of music.

Among the artists he recorded are Elvis Presley, Mae West, Nino Tempo & April Stevens (including their #1 hit "Deep Purple"), Shelly Manne, Les McCann, Jan & Dean, and Glen Campbell.

For several years Dave was on the Board of Governors of The National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS) and received a Grammy nomination for Audio Mixing in 1968 for Shelly Manne’s "Daktari" album.

When Radio Recorders closed, he and three partners bought "The Annex" on Sycamore and he continued with his recording career.

After several years, David decided to give up the music business and go back to his first love, acting. He enjoyed a long and successful career as a character actor in television and film, landing roles in many of the top TV shows of the day. Some of the most memorable include "Cheers," "Night Court," "In Living Color," "LA Law" and "Hill Street Blues." He played the the Jury Foreman in "The Jagged Edge" and the crazy, eyeball-wielding Abel in "Friday the 13th Part III, in 3-D."

He found additional success in print ads and voice-overs. His love of acting was not strictly professional – he exercised his craft in the community theater group Actor's Forum every Tuesday night, where he met some of his closest friends.

David died peacefully at home, in his own bed, on February 5th, 2007.


http://www.wiechman.com/clemdavidwiechman.html
Dave Wiechman: Elvis Sessions

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Great thread, Doc. It is interesting to note the difference in the feel of the sessions when Dave took over, as compared to Thorne.

Anyhow, I think DW may have also assisted in the recording of "Flaming Star" becasue it you read the tape legend, it notes the recorder as "Dave."


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Mike C wrote:Great thread, Doc. It is interesting to note the difference in the feel of the sessions when Dave took over, as compared to Thorne.
Thanks. I agree -- it was a different ballgame with Dave there.
Mike C wrote:Anyhow, I think DW may have also assisted in the recording of "Flaming Star" because it you read the tape legend, it notes the recorder as "Dave."
I think you mean the session for "Black Star" (August 8), not "Flaming Star" (October 7) -->

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Radio Recorders - Monday, August 8, 1960


In any case, it is possible "Dave" is Dave Wiechman -- but it's unclear when he was first employed at Radio Recorders. He apparently did not become Engineer on an Elvis session until two years later.
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Fascinating, thanks Doc.

I'm surprised there haven't been more comments on this thread.


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londonflash wrote:Fascinating, thanks Doc.

I'm surprised there haven't been more comments on this thread.
Thanks! I am surprised too, I thought people would be intrigued to learn more about Wiechman.

There are some May 1966 outtakes with Frank Sinatra where you hear Dave's voice, too. So he really touched greatness. It's a shame he apparently never wrote his story, or gave a lengthy interview to anyone.

The still-officially-unissued 1963 outtakes of "If You Think I Don't Need You" from "Viva Las Vegas" are where I first heard Dave's banter with Elvis, on the Lucky Records bootleg LP. And, of course, those hysterical "Paradise, Hawaiian Style" tapes from August 1965 that surfaced in the 1980s featured Wiechman speaking with Presley quite a bit.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
londonflash wrote:Fascinating, thanks Doc.

I'm surprised there haven't been more comments on this thread.
Thanks! I am surprised too, I thought people would be intrigued to learn more about Wiechman.

There are some May 1966 outtakes with Frank Sinatra where you hear Dave's voice, too. So he really touched greatness. It's a shame he apparently never wrote his story, or gave a lengthy interview to anyone.

The still-officially-unissued 1963 outtakes of "If You Think I Don't Need You" from "Viva Las Vegas" are where I first heard Dave's banter with Elvis, on the Lucky Records bootleg LP. And, of course, those hysterical "Paradise, Hawaiian Style" tapes from August 1965 that surfaced in the 1980s featured Wiechman speaking with Presley quite a bit.
Cool info. BTW, you are correct regarding the correction to my earlier post in this thread.


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Mike C wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
londonflash wrote:Fascinating, thanks Doc.

I'm surprised there haven't been more comments on this thread.
Thanks! I am surprised too, I thought people would be intrigued to learn more about Wiechman.

There are some May 1966 outtakes with Frank Sinatra where you hear Dave's voice, too. So he really touched greatness. It's a shame he apparently never wrote his story, or gave a lengthy interview to anyone.

The still-officially-unissued 1963 outtakes of "If You Think I Don't Need You" from "Viva Las Vegas" are where I first heard Dave's banter with Elvis, on the Lucky Records bootleg LP. And, of course, those hysterical "Paradise, Hawaiian Style" tapes from August 1965 that surfaced in the 1980s featured Wiechman speaking with Presley quite a bit.
Cool info. BTW, you are correct regarding the correction to my earlier post in this thread.
Thanks again.

Your observation of "Dave" on that 1960 tape box was keen -- it could have been a good question for Wiechman. Oh well.


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About the quality of his work.

To my mind it is not as good as Thorne and Bill Porter?


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I knew Dave from 1964, where he used to hang out on a ham radio frequency occupied nightly by a bunch of guys from all over the country but mostly from Hawaii. Dave's dry humor (as K6RTA) was right in line with the group so he was in every night. It was called the pupule (which means crazy in Hawaiian) and I was # 100. I forget Dave's but it was a lower number. When I went to visit him in 1971 I met his lovely wife Dottie (who being in RE sold me my present house) and his two cute little daughters. Well there are a lot of stories from there but I'll never forget the bow and arrow target range he set up outside and the fact that he had remote speaker and microphone for his radio right in the dinette area so that must have pleased the other half to no end. He, Thorne, and another guy from Annex used to booze it up over at some Formosa Ave. bar and they were basically fixtures there after work. I don't remember too much from that night for some reason. He had renewed his license in 2005 according to FCC records:
http://hamcall.net/reports/fccdaily/name/20051104.htm
I'm not sure about the Elvis timetable but I do know he worked on some of his tunes. He was recordist most of the time but had some of his own exclusive artists such as Vicki Carr and appears as the mixer on Strawberry Alarmclock. Vicki ♥ was there at Annex one day I was there .
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KiwiAlan wrote:About the quality of his work.

To my mind it is not as good as Thorne and Bill Porter?
I think it depends on the material and other intangibles. Fun In Acapulco is as good as anything. World's Fair seems below par but many of the outtakes sound great.

I wonder why FTD left those false starts of "If You Think I Don't Need You" off their release of Viva Las Vegas. I was disappointed by that.


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I enjoyed reading this, thanks Doc.


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Thanks, Doc, and also thanks to MikeK6ci, for the personal story. Much appreciated!

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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mike C wrote:Great thread, Doc. It is interesting to note the difference in the feel of the sessions when Dave took over, as compared to Thorne.
Thanks. I agree -- it was a different ballgame with Dave there.
Mike C wrote:Anyhow, I think DW may have also assisted in the recording of "Flaming Star" because it you read the tape legend, it notes the recorder as "Dave."
I think you mean the session for "Black Star" (August 8), not "Flaming Star" (October 7) -->


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Radio Recorders - Monday, August 8, 1960


In any case, it's possible "Dave" is Dave Wiechman -- it's unclear when he was first employed at Radio Recorders. He apparently did not become Engineer on an Elvis session until two years later.
The tape box legend refers to "Play Back." Is that synonymous with what we call "Alternate Take?"


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MikeK6ci wrote:I knew Dave from 1964, where he used to hang out on a ham radio frequency occupied nightly by a bunch of guys from all over the country but mostly from Hawaii. Dave's dry humor (as K6RTA) was right in line with the group so he was in every night. It was called the pupule (which means crazy in Hawaiian) and I was # 100. I forget Dave's but it was a lower number. When I went to visit him in 1971 I met his lovely wife Dottie (who being in RE sold me my present house) and his two cute little daughters. Well there are a lot of stories from there but I'll never forget the bow and arrow target range he set up outside and the fact that he had remote speaker and microphone for his radio right in the dinette area so that must have pleased the other half to no end. He, Thorne, and another guy from Annex used to booze it up over at some Formosa Ave. bar and they were basically fixtures there after work. I don't remember too much from that night for some reason. He had renewed his license in 2005 according to FCC records:
http://hamcall.net/reports/fccdaily/name/20051104.htm
I'm not sure about the Elvis timetable but I do know he worked on some of his tunes. He was recordist most of the time but had some of his own exclusive artists such as Vicki Carr and appears as the mixer on Strawberry Alarmclock. Vicki ♥ was there at Annex one day I was there .
Thank you for your memories, Mike.

Dave's 18 known Presley sessions are listed above, click each link to see the details.

Did he ever speak with you about his work with Elvis between 1962 and 1966?


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stevelecher wrote:
KiwiAlan wrote:About the quality of his work.

To my mind it is not as good as Thorne and Bill Porter?
I think it depends on the material and other intangibles. Fun In Acapulco is as good as anything. World's Fair seems below par but many of the outtakes sound great.

I wonder why FTD left those false starts of "If You Think I Don't Need You" off their release of Viva Las Vegas. I was disappointed by that.
FTD may not have had access to that session reel.


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GuyLambert wrote:I enjoyed reading this, thanks Doc.
rjm wrote:Thanks, Doc, and also thanks to MikeK6ci, for the personal story. Much appreciated!

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elvisjock wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mike C wrote:Great thread, Doc. It is interesting to note the difference in the feel of the sessions when Dave took over, as compared to Thorne.
Thanks. I agree -- it was a different ballgame with Dave there.
Mike C wrote:Anyhow, I think DW may have also assisted in the recording of "Flaming Star" because it you read the tape legend, it notes the recorder as "Dave."
I think you mean the session for "Black Star" (August 8), not "Flaming Star" (October 7) -->


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Radio Recorders - Monday, August 8, 1960


In any case, it's possible "Dave" is Dave Wiechman -- it's unclear when he was first employed at Radio Recorders. He apparently did not become Engineer on an Elvis session until two years later.
The tape box legend refers to "Play Back." Is that synonymous with what we call "Alternate Take?"
Yes indeed. Looks like some good stuff awaits us from August 1960.


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Pardon my ignorance of these things, but is David Wiechman the deep voiced guy who calls out the take numbers during 'Beach Shack' ?


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Hi there!! :D :D :D.

After so many years since the label FTD started, I keep wondering why Mr. Ernst Jorgensen is still keeping a hold on the FTD release of Flaming Star :shock:. Bye for now :smt006.


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Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! :D :D :D.

After so many years since the label FTD started, I keep wondering why Mr. Ernst Jorgensen is still keeping a hold on the FTD release of Flaming Star :shock:. Bye for now :smt006.
With so few songs on it, I guess it'll work similar to Wild In The Country. Is there enough material for a full cd?


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mike edwards66 wrote:Pardon my ignorance of these things, but is David Wiechman the deep voiced guy who calls out the take numbers during 'Beach Shack' ?
Yes, that is him!

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Mike Windgren wrote:... I keep wondering why Mr. Ernst Jorgensen is still keeping a hold on the FTD release of Flaming Star ...
Although this is an off-topic comment, we do keep wondering why you always paint Ernst as someone with an agenda to prevent you from owning every single scrap of audio with Elvis Presley's voice on it.

Over one hundred FTDs to date, with hours upon hours of unreleased studio and live recordings, not to mention superbly remastered audio of official masters, and still you have a problem.

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Hi there!! :D :D :D
frus75 wrote:
Mike Windgren wrote:Hi there!! :D :D :D.

After so many years since the label FTD started, I keep wondering why Mr. Ernst Jorgensen is still keeping a hold on the FTD release of Flaming Star :shock:. Bye for now :smt006.
With so few songs on it, I guess it'll work similar to Wild In The Country. Is there enough material for a full cd?


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-Black Star-13 takes.
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-Summer Kisses Winter Tears-26 takes.
-Britches-7 takes.
-A Cane And A High Starched Collar-6 takes.
-Flaming Star-6 takes.
-Flaming Star-End Title-5 takes.

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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Mike Windgren wrote:... I keep wondering why Mr. Ernst Jorgensen is still keeping a hold on the FTD release of Flaming Star ...
Although this is an off-topic comment, we do keep wondering why you always paint Ernst as someone with an agenda to prevent you from owning every single scrap of audio with Elvis Presley's voice on it.

Over one hundred FTDs to date, with hours upon hours of unreleased studio and live recordings, not to mention superbly remastered audio of official masters, and still you have a problem.

If you have any observations to share regarding David Wiechman - Elvis Engineer, 1962 - 1966, now's the time. ;-)
Wrong once again!. Read & learn, it was regarding one of the recording sessions in which David Weichman was involved :smt005. Bye for now :smt006.


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If you have any observations to share regarding David Wiechman - Elvis Engineer, 1962 - 1966, now's the time.

If that's too hard for you, please move on. ;-)

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