For Elvis CD Collectors

It seems some have forgotten about:

Courtesy and Civility being required here on FECC.
This in itself is quite troubling.

What we need to keep in mind, is what FECC isn't:

FECC is not the place to carry out personal wars.
FECC no doubt, is a very diverse place with many diverse personalities. If you find yourself disagreeing with another member --- you can state your personal point of view in a Civil manner. If all else fails, you can "agree to disagree".
And when it comes to opinions, they are just that. Forcing your opinions on others is not the civil way to handle things. In some instances, neither side is right, or wrong. A greater tolerance is needed by certain members here on the forum.

FECC is not the place for derailing threads.
The opening poster, most times puts a lot of thought and effort into their post.. So derailing it into a Sherrill Nielson/Roger Whitaker/etc etc thread, for example, is not only not appreciated by the opening poster, but by the forum at large. While a handful may think this is funny, the majority surely does not. If you do not have something pertinent to say - that relates to the topic at hand, don't post it. It's not funny, or cute. This behavior is no longer tolerated, and warning banners will be placed. If the behavior continues after this, you will be suspended for a certain period of time.

FECC is not the place to cause trouble, personal attacks are not tolerated.
We are a community of Elvis fans first and foremost. FECC should not be a place where people dread to post, or visit - in fear that their points of view will be shot down, or be subject to a personal attack. CIVIL disagreement/debate is fine, but taking it to the next level is not.
If you're making a post, that has no bearing on the topic at hand, and its only purpose is to degrade/pick on/cause trouble with another member, or group of members --- your post will have a banner placed/warning given. If the behavior continues after this, you will be suspended for a certain period of time. .

For the most part, everyone is doing just fine, and are abiding by The Guidelines.. But I felt this reminder needed to be given.

Jordan

It seems like what you are saying here is that irony is a suspendible act if some miss the intent.

And you assume that "some" = "the forum at large" -- which is simply unverifiable.

This implies bias against intelligent members of this forum who, rather than get into a bitch fight, seek to use such rhetorical devices to counter the "Elvis could do no wrong" philosophy rampant on the internet.

Why not let the original poster make the call on such things? They can hit the report button if they feel said device is being misused.

DJC,

There is no bias, as far as I'm concerned.

Irony itself is not a suspendible act. But constantly derailing threads - is.

Making a post with above mentioned things - when it's in context is fine..

But going from topic to topic saying things like "It's not as good as Sherrill!" (not a direct quote) etc etc gets very tiresome after awhile, and shows disrespect to the opening poster.

Rhetorical device, or not - those kinds of posts, while they may get a chuckle from a few - really do nothing for the forum.



But to blindly start turning threads into "EIC" threads, does not get the point across effectively. I have no problems with folks countering any philosophy they wish. But doing it in the way mentioned, is just not appropriate. Why be cloak and dagger about it when one could just civilly state their views?


In most cases they have.

Ah, but are these done on a whim, out of the blue?

Or are they in response to a myopic or augmentative comment from one of the "Elvis looked great in 1977" crowd?

From my view it's far more often the latter.

Well, I could get really ticked off by a thread - and go tell everyone to "Fk off". It would be done with intent, wouldn't be out of the blue. But would it be appropriate? No!

Bottom line is, everyone has their own favorite Elvis period. Others appreciate it all. It's just the listener's personal opinion, which is neither right or wrong. But forcing ones opinion, or bashing people over the head because their personal opinion differs, is just not appropriate. And could be handled in a much more civil way than the stream of "rhetorical devices".

When certain groups "agree to disagree" then, I will be a happy camper.

We shall call this the Carpenter Amendment to the FECC rules.

All those in favor say "My Boy." (note: not "M'boy, m'boy"...that's different)





Whatever you call it, it's a decent guideline -- given the propensity of some for dominating discussion via very predictable derailing and redirection or continual jabs at all who aren't as allegedly hip as the 'cool kids' think they are (bullying, in other words) -- that should be entirely unnecessary. That kind of behavior is, I think, the kind that's responsible for most of the rancor hereabouts. Unnecessary, frustrating, and definitely offputting enough to scare people away from an otherwise very good forum or to prevent them saying what they think for fear of being run down for their subjective opinions.





(and, yes, I am aware of the intentional irony in my first sentences of this post)

M'boy, m'boy...

Perfectly put.

It is truly ironic that certain posters think that being repititively ironic is intelligent. All it can do is smother open discussion. If they are too lazy or jaded to make their point in a genuinely intelligent, non inflammatory way, it is far better that they just leave the thread without posting anything.

I am sure I am guilty on occaision too, so this applies equally to me too of course!

Well, stop doing it, then..........

I do not view myself as an habitual repeat offender in the same league as the masters of the form.

But I will always be trying my best to behave from now on.

Is that ok?

Well................ all right........ but I got my eye on you......................