Tue May 26, 2009 8:41 pm
G.I. Blues wrote:Greybeard wrote:On the subject of the possibility of a soundboard- I was once told that even though nice soundboard quality recordings of shows leading up to Pittsburgh exist, Pittsburgh was not recorded.
When I asked why I was told that being New Years Eve/ New Years Day was a holiday- wages for union based people were higher than those on previous days. Never one to go overboard on spending- management opted to go with a bare neccessity type crew for the big show and not have to fork extra cash over for additional personel, and probably equipment.
Seems plausible to me based on the ever so thrifty management Elvis had.
Could be the reason no soundboard exists, and I believe Ernst looked for one and finally gave in and had to use the audience source recording.
Sorry, but this doesn't sound conclusive to me.
There had been three soundengineers in attandence (Felton Jarvis, Bruce Jackson and Bill Porter). Elvis even introduces them to the audience. What would have been a problem to plug in a simple tape recorder and hit the record button as usual???
Extra costs because of new year's eve? No way!!!
Tue May 26, 2009 8:51 pm
Would anyone really be surprised if this was one of the shows in Bruce Jackson's possession?
Tue May 26, 2009 9:05 pm
Greybeard wrote:elvisjock wrote3. Almost-professional looking chest-up film, that was synched with the Herman audio. This footage is very choppy. Not too many complete songs, but it clearly shows how "bright eyed and bushy tailed" Elvis was that night.
The amazing things about this footage is, it was also shot by Herman at the same time as recording! The original film is actually sound Super 8mm footage. I'm sure someone has added the audio from a strictly audio source at one time or another to try and enhance this, but the original is sound footage.
the reason for the choppy scenes is that Sound Super 8 was expensive to shoot and process. I believe that reels ran 3 mins or so each.
John used outdoor film stock to shoot his Elvis concert films. Many people made the mistake of buying indoor rated film as you would think that would be best- It wasn't.
Tue May 26, 2009 9:31 pm
DJL wrote:Would anyone really be surprised if this was one of the shows in Bruce Jackson's possession?
Midnightx, I hope you are being serious, but that was the person, Bruce Jackson, I was thinking of that I remember reading could possibily have this show as a soundboard in his possession.
Tue May 26, 2009 9:54 pm
Tue May 26, 2009 10:06 pm
A Witness To Concert Recordings
by The Crazy Canuck
The story begins on October 21st, 1976 at the Kalamazoo, Mi. Wings Stadium where I was seated first row on the side of the stage (opposite side to back-up singers) right behind the mixing board. Before Elvis made his appearance on stage that night I noticed a huge "open trunk" beside the sound engineers, this trunk in a standing position contained a big REEL TO REEL PORTABLE RECORDER with two sixteen inches reels (approximate size) . While J.D. Sumner and the Stamps and The Sweet Inspirations were entertaining the crowd the reel to reel tape recorder was in a stand-by position, but when the first notes of the 2001 theme hit the Wings Stadium then you could clearly see that the tapes were rolling, which went on until Elvis left the building some sixty-five minutes later. Moreover after they recorded the Kalamazoo concert we were able to notice that they did not use ALL THE TAPE on the main reel, indeed we could easily presume that more than one concert might be recorded on a full reel at that time. The same set-up was in use the two following nights in Campaign, Illinois and Cleveland, Ohio and further can be extended to the great New Years Eve' s concert in Pittsburgh, Pa. on December 31st, 1976.
Tue May 26, 2009 10:11 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:There is a strong possibility that some, if not all, of 12-31-76 was captured from the soundboard
Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:08 pm
elvisjock wrote:fecc-mechanic wrote:And btw, the quality was in no way, shape or form close to a soundboard. It was better in some places than the Herman tape, and worse in others. The first 15 or 20 minutes of the recording are very heavy on the bass, distractingly so.
Yep, that is the recording.. And I agree it doesn't even come close to a soundboard.
That guy was largely responsible for the random songs Elvis did at the end of the show. He requested That's All Right and Reconsider Baby, and asked him to play the guitar. IIRC he also yelled out for Little Sister. During Can't Help Falling In Love, his buddy said (as if he was talking to a child) "He did ENOUGH for you!"
These dudes were sitting near John Herman, because you can faintly hear some of the audience members that are prominent on that tape. Interestingly, you can't hear these two guys on the Herman tape, though.
Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:51 pm
Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:23 pm
you are right, this is probably a third audience source. None of the talks are present on the tape A and tape B.
Where you happy with the sound of that "tape C" ? Do you remember any flaws, and was it "complete" ?
Thanks for all the infos you provided
Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:34 pm
elvisjock wrote:elvisjock wrote:fecc-mechanic wrote:And btw, what was wrong with the horn players that night? They were about the worst I've ever heard them. Maybe they celebrated New Year's early.
Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:58 pm
Jeff H wrote: Great show, but the brass section was bad!
Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:04 pm
Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:48 am
midnightx wrote:RonBaker2003 wrote:A Pittsburgh soundboard would be incredible to have! Were there any soundboards done for the Lake Tahoe shows?
Yes and no. Another flat, lifeless, unbalanced '76 soundboard would not do the show any justice. A soundboard may not improve the listening experience, in fact, it may highlight flaws in the performance not evident from the audience source.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:19 pm
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:05 am
Tim C wrote:does anyone have a complete lossless early gen copy of the third unreleased on cd that they could send me?
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:08 am
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