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Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:32 am

Matthew wrote:
Kylan wrote:as always gotta disagree with Polk Salad... August 12 rocks harder and louder. If you want slow country cookin, enjoy TJW!


The backbone of the Feb 1970 master is superior - it just grooves better. Bob Lanning shines on this one. The August 1970 performances are great (and visually stunning) but audibly the On Stage master is the most satisfying.



huh???? the drums limp thru.... man! thats POLK..... salad.... listen to both and tell me which one has more powerful drumming!

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:35 am

Kylan wrote:huh???? the drums limp thru.... man! thats POLK..... salad.... listen to both and tell me which one has more powerful drumming!


Matthew wrote:The backbone of the Feb 1970 master is superior - it just grooves better.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:01 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Cryogenic wrote:What you are offering is merely SUBJECTIVE OPINION.

YES. And a more reasoned, balanced and experienced one will not be found anywhere else.


That is a subjective opinion about a subjective opinion -- no more, no less.

And in my subjective opinion, comments like this reveal you think far too highly of yourself. The alternate hypothesis is that this whole thing is just a game to you and you're simply egging people on. I guess that makes me a sucker, but it's worth being a sucker for Elvis.

drjohncarpenter wrote:The scope of this collection has been mentioned several times already. Please review and get back to me.


Erm, ya.

Let me express my point mathematically:

1950's = 29 songs
1960's = 21 songs
1970's = 7 songs

And again: 1974-1977 gets no coverage at all (despite the fact that Elvis Presley recorded over two dozen songs in this final period and that your list otherwise contains chronological gaps of no more than two years).

I personally wouldn't call your compilation "balanced" or "reasonable".

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Cryogenic wrote:To end on "Promised Land" leaves the listener high and dry as to the real Elvis Presley ...

Surely, you jest. It is the perfect denouement, on many levels.


Surely, YOU jest -- by omitting the final, critical part of my original sentence: "To end on "Promised Land" leaves the listener high and dry as to the real Elvis Presley and how and why his life ended."

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Cryogenic wrote:That aside, I also have a problem with your dismissal of my other suggestions, like "I Need Somebody To Lean On".

That is for you to deal with.


Yes, but you're a doctor -- aren't you? :wink:

drjohncarpenter wrote:For example, "I Need Somebody To Lean On" is an outstanding recording, with more than a few touches of the great Charlie Rich, but, as explained, only a few representatives of his 1960s soundtrack era could make the cut. Both "Can't Helping Falling In Love" and "Return To Sender" are far superior choices. To claim otherwise is folly.


I'm not claiming otherwise. Please quote anywhere in this or my preceding responses where you feel I might be.

I also have no idea why you assert that "I Need Somebody To Lean On" has "more than a few" touches of another artist you admire (oh, wait).

Unless I'm gravely mistaken, Charlie Rich had more of a tenor voice, which Elvis could not have convincingly duplicated. For sheer sound and style, Elvis is many things, but he's also no Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra, Sam Cooke, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye, Bob Marley, Jeff Buckley, Michael Jackson or Amy Winehouse. Elvis took inspiration from others but lightly, carefully, tastefully and always, always, ALWAYS did his own thing.

- What do you sing?
- I sing all kinds.

- Who do you sound like?
- I don't sound like nobody.

Incidentally, this should also be remembered for the exclusion and dismissal of his final body of work: i.e. 1974-1977.

drjohncarpenter wrote:Take another look at my replies and note how many times I said the choices were tough to make. Maybe then you'll appreciate the beauty and appropriateness of my selections.


Oh, jeeze. If I want to see someone masturbating, I'll watch a porn vid.

midnightx wrote:Moody Blue was one of EP's finest efforts from the '76 sessions, but it is hardly "dynamic" or even "fresh." It is not in the same league as the recordings Dr. Carpenter listed.


How many country-pop-disco hybrid songs were around at the time? The recording is rich, spirited and very savvy, in my opinion.

midnightx wrote:
Cryogenic wrote:To end on "Promised Land" leaves the listener high and dry as to the real Elvis Presley and how and why his life ended.

No it doesn't. How does it leave the listener high and dry? Why does the listener need to know Elvis' life ended with a string of recording sessions that resulted in subpar results? How is that a tribute to Elvis' prime work?


Your stacking of the deck is typical of you. I don't consider the likes of "Moody Blue", "For The Heart", "Hurt", "Bitter They Are, Harder They Fall", "She Thinks I Still Care" and "Danny Boy" "subpar". This selection of material, the voice contained therein and the mood subsequently created is a trenchant lugubriousness found nowhere else in Elvis Presley's entire musical mosaic. To exclude this patch is -- in my opinion -- criminal.

Matthew wrote:How Great Thou Art (live) - for me this song represents what Elvis was all about in his soul. Gospel was such a driving force for him that I feel closing such a collection with a performance of such befits the man and his achievements.


You've touched on a point I meant to raise before. If the linear ordering could be defied for any song or any reason, I'd do it for "If I Can Dream" -- which I'd personally have as a bonus track at the end of the compilation. The heart and soul of Elvis is truly in this recording, in my opinion. The visual arrangement of the original performance simply and powerfully underscores this concept: this is, purely and simply, E-L-V-I-S.

Again, it must be stressed that these sorts of things are unavoidably, inextricably and endlessly subjective. One man's meat is another man's poison. I've seen many additional song selections proposed here that I find myself in agreement with. It is too hard to boil Elvis Presley's phenomenal work down to a couple of CDs. But if a compilation is going for broadness and inclusivity, it should find room for something from virtually every year. It only seems foolish and hubristic to fully ignore and deride an entire chapter in an artist's life by sin of omission.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:49 am

Cryogenic wrote:You've touched on a point I meant to raise before. If the linear ordering could be defied for any song or any reason, I'd do it for "If I Can Dream" -- which I'd personally have as a bonus track at the end of the compilation. The heart and soul of Elvis is truly in this recording, in my opinion. The visual arrangement of the original performance simply and powerfully underscores this concept: this is, purely and simply, E-L-V-I-S.

Again, it must be stressed that these sorts of things are unavoidably, inextricably and endlessly subjective. One man's meat is another man's poison. I've seen many additional song selections proposed here that I find myself in agreement with. It is too hard to boil Elvis Presley's phenomenal work down to a couple of CDs. But if a compilation is going for broadness and inclusivity, it should find room for something from virtually every year. It only seems foolish and hubristic to fully ignore and deride an entire chapter in an artist's life by sin of omission.

Why should "If I Can Dream" be a bonus track? What makes it a bonus? It is an incredible song and performance and it fits nicely in the confines of the compilation at hand.

Secondly, why should every year be represented on any compilation? This compilation is supposed to be a vehicle to highlight the very best. Not every era can be considered an artistic success. There is a reason the post-Jim Morrison Doors recordings are basically left off of Doors compilations, because the material is not of the same quality as the 1966-1971 Morrison-era tracks. You can find this same scenerio for many artists spanning many genres. Not every chapter in an artist's life and career is worthy of being included in a highlight reel.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:50 am

Cryogenic wrote:And again: 1974-1977 gets no coverage at all (despite the fact that Elvis Presley recorded over two dozen songs in this final period and that your list otherwise contains chronological gaps of no more than two years).

There's a little clue there for ya.

Cryogenic wrote:I'm not claiming otherwise. Please quote anywhere in this or my preceding responses where you feel I might be.

As my objective with the 1960s soundtrack work was clearly defined, your outrage at the omission of "I Need Somebody To Lean On" implies it is better. And that is folly.

Cryogenic wrote:Unless I'm gravely mistaken, Charlie Rich had more of a tenor voice ...

Yes, indeed, you are "gravely mistaken." Thank you for proving my earlier assertion about being more "experienced" than most. You better mellow out on the porn rentals. If you'd like to discover more about Charlie Rich, send a PM and I'll help you out.

Cryogenic wrote:But if a compilation is going for broadness and inclusivity, it should find room for something from virtually every year. It only seems foolish and hubristic to fully ignore and deride an entire chapter in an artist's life by sin of omission.

Guess what? You are on the wrong topic, as the scope of my collection -- stated MULTIPLE times -- is anything but the above.

Please stop trying to squelch the joy and fun in which this topic was intended.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:08 pm

An interesting discussion - and I would agree with many on DJC's list.
Music is a personal choice though, so all selections have to be "IMHO" something that could never feature in the Doc's vocabulary

As for Elvis dismissing the importance of (or never returning to) his song 'Too Much' there are plenty of choices on DJC's list that Elvis would similarly never sing or think of again. (Crawfish? I Beg Of You? It's Your Baby?)
Then again, Elvis sang "Amen" over five hundred times in concert - and I'm sure at home - but we wouldn't use that on this excellent compile.

Anyway it is interesting to look at what tracks Ernst decided were worthy for 'Artist Of The Century' that DJC hasn't used.
(Removing the marketting requirements of AOTC "crowd pleasers").

AOTC Tracks missed by DJC. .
5.Trying To Get To You,
7.Blue Suede Shoes
8.My Baby Left Me,
9.Lawdy, Miss Clawdy,
11.Any Way You Want Me,
15.Anyplace Is Paradise,
21.Baby I Don't Care,
22.Treat Me Nice,
25.Trouble,
26.Hard Headed Woman,

5.Like A Baby
6.The Girl Of My Best Friend,
11.That's Someone You Never Forget,
14.Anything That's Part Of You,
20.It Hurts Me,
21.Down In The Alley,
22.Run On,
23.Tomorrow Is A Long Time,
24.Big Boss Man,
25.Guitar Man,

5.I'll Hold You In My Heart,
6.Stranger In My Own Home Town,
7.After Loving You,
8.Only The Strong Survive,
15.I'm Leavin',
20.For The Heart

Similarly AT YOUR REQUEST, features the following tracks not chosen by Ernst.

01. My Happiness 8.53 / take-home demo, SUN Studios, Memphis
07. I Got A Woman 1.56 / first album, RCA Studios, Nashville
14. I Beg Of You 1.57 / unissued, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
15. Is It So Strange 1.57 / extended play, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
17. Loving You 2.57 / single A-side, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
18. When It Rains, It Really Pours 2.57 / unissued, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
20. Young and Beautiful 4.57 / extended play, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
21. Blue Christmas 9.57 / Christmas album, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
24. Crawfish 1.58 / "King Creole" album, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
25. King Creole 1.58 / single A-side, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
27. Ain't That Loving You, Baby 6.58 / unissued, RCA Studio B, Nashville
28. I Got Stung 6.58 / single B-side, RCA Studio B, Nashville
30. Fame and Fortune 3.60 / single B-side, RCA Studio B, Nashville
32. It Feels So Right 3.60 / "Elvis Is Back!" album, RCA Studio B, Nashville

04. Crying In The Chapel 10.60 / 1965 single A-side, RCA Studio B, Nashville
08. Suspicion 3.62 / "Pot Luck" album, RCA Studio B, Nashville
11. If I Loved You 66-67 / unissued home demo, Los Angeles
12. Trouble/Guitar Man 6.68 / "TV Special" album, Western Recorders,
17. Kentucky Rain 2.69 / 1970 single A-side, American Sound, Memphis
18. I Got A Woman 8.69 / unissued, International Hotel, Las Vegas
20. Walk A Mile In My Shoes 2.70 / "On Stage" album, International Hotel,
21. It's Your Baby, You Rock It 6.70 / "Elvis Country" album, RCA Studio B, Nashville
24. I've Got A Thing About You Baby 7.73 / 1974 single A-side, Stax Studios, Memphis

Everyone can create and fawn over their own personal selection, and if they enjoy listening to it then all is good.
However I feel 'It's Your Baby' and 'I Beg Of You' both sound pretty weak surrounded by those other classics.

'Anyway You Want me' should be included.
The funk of 'Down In the Alley' also indicated a major change in direction and on the DOC's selection, the 1966/67 key musical renaissance is not represented.

I'm also with YDKM about missing out Kentucky Rain in favour of another '69 selection.

Cheers
Piers

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:29 pm

Love me Tender is a bad choice, you should replace it by Any Place is Paradise.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:33 pm

Love me Tender is a bad choice, you should replace it by Any Place is Paradise.

ANYPLACE IS PARADISE is wonderfully bluesy and everything you want (and it disserves to be in this kind of "Very Best Of") but you can´t say that LOVE ME TENDER is a "bad choice". It could easily be the greatest love song ever!

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:06 pm

jeanno wrote:
Love me Tender is a bad choice, you should replace it by Any Place is Paradise.

ANYPLACE IS PARADISE is wonderfully bluesy and everything you want (and it disserves to be in this kind of "Very Best Of") but you can´t say that LOVE ME TENDER is a "bad choice". It could easily be the greatest love song ever!


The '68 version could be, but not the '56 release.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:17 pm

If I had to choose one track from “Elvis Country” it would be “Tomorrow Never Comes”. I’m assuming “It’s Your Baby” was preferred as it wasn’t a cover song and shows Elvis progressing with new material.

Another interesting comparison with “AOC” is that despite having three discs to fill rather than DJC’s two Ernst only saw fit to include one track post December 1973 and this was “For The Heart” from February ’76.

Some fans have criticised DJC’s compilation for omitting material from 1974 – ’77 but like “AOC” this isn’t a total career overview, it’s a showcase for Elvis’ very best work, and given that criteria, I certainly wouldn’t omit anything from the list in favour of the recordings that came after.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:10 pm

Matthew wrote:Firstly I would drop Merry Christmas Baby and I've Got A Thing About You Baby ... my exchanges ... Just Pretend - two great albums came from the 1970 Nashville session, TTWII and Elvis Country. Both I feel deserve representation ...

Both choices are core performances, while "Just Pretend" -- a session highlight nonetheless -- is not. Space issues prevent representation of both TTWII and EC.

Matthew wrote:Separate Ways - if room permits another cut from the March 72 session is in order ...

Room does not allow another cut but, if there had been, my next choice would be "Always On My Mind," for its beauty and longevity as a hit recording.

Matthew wrote:How Great Thou Art (live) - for me this song represents what Elvis was all about in his soul ... Now, which version? I ... swayed to the Omaha 77 performance

No performance of "How Great Thou Art" beats "Crying In The Chapel." And, unfortunately, there is not a single live performance from 1977 that can fit the scope of this collection.


KempoDick wrote:Love me Tender is a bad choice, you should replace it by Any Place is Paradise.

Actually it is an excellent choice.

"Love Me Tender" encompasses many significant things in the Presley career.

It was a huge #1 single, a left-field offering in a year where Elvis was considered the devil incarnate by many parents and the media at large, and it was the title song of his motion picture debut. It was also culled from his very first film soundtrack session -- the significance of which is now a part of history.

Only a handful of 1950s soundtrack recordings could be allowed, and "Love Me Tender" -- along with the title tracks from his other three 1950s films -- is a perfect, representative selection.


rockinrebel wrote:Some fans have criticised DJC’s compilation for omitting material from 1974 – ’77 but like “AOC” this isn’t a total career overview, it’s a showcase for Elvis’ very best work, and given that criteria, I certainly wouldn’t omit anything from the list in favour of the recordings that came after.

Spot-on!


Great comments, everyone.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:10 pm

Elvis at who's request ?

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:31 am

elvis presley scrapbook wrote:Elvis at who's request ?


http://www.elvis-collectors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38493&p=507814&hilit=new+topic#p507814

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:25 am

Doc, please do me a favour.

Your list inlcudes 57 tracks.

Anyway you could round it off to 60, maybe 75 tracks ???

maybe a Volume 3 ???

Thanks in advance.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:33 am

minkahed wrote:Doc, please do me a favour.

Your list inlcudes 57 tracks.

Anyway you could round it off to 60, maybe 75 tracks ???

maybe a Volume 3 ???

Thanks in advance.

Yeah, if he makes it to a volume 10, maybe My Boy can slip in there.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Aug 17, 2009 7:37 am

midnightx wrote:
minkahed wrote:Doc, please do me a favour.

Your list inlcudes 57 tracks.

Anyway you could round it off to 60, maybe 75 tracks ???

maybe a Volume 3 ???

Thanks in advance.

Yeah, if he makes it to a volume 10, maybe My Boy can slip in there.


True, but I'm only asking for his list on what could be a possible Volume 3 for my own list, possibly up to 75 trax.

Sorry, but I don't think "My Boy" is gonna ,make this cut.

Who knows, maybe elvisallc's fav, "Sylvia", or "Heart Of Rome" could be included ... ?

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:08 pm

Cryo
And again: 1974-1977 gets no coverage at all (despite the fact that Elvis Presley recorded over two dozen songs in this final period and that your list otherwise contains chronological gaps of no more than two years).

You wouldn´t love at all my own one CD essential collection: it goes from 1954 to 1956 and from 1968 to 1971... I have to explain that this collection is based on pure rock´n´roll / R&B material, which is the reason why I´ve omitted Presley´s last 6 years.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:51 pm

I can't believe this thread is over a year old !

Where's the time gone ?

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:57 pm

minkahed wrote:Doc, please do me a favour.

Your list inlcudes 57 tracks.

Anyway you could round it off to 60, maybe 75 tracks ???

maybe a Volume 3 ???

Thanks in advance.

I appreciate the thought, but both of those ideas are outside the scope of the project.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:39 pm

PiersEIN wrote:An interesting discussion - and I would agree with many on DJC's list.
Music is a personal choice though, so all selections have to be "IMHO" something that could never feature in the Doc's vocabulary

As for Elvis dismissing the importance of (or never returning to) his song 'Too Much' there are plenty of choices on DJC's list that Elvis would similarly never sing or think of again. (Crawfish? I Beg Of You? It's Your Baby?)
Then again, Elvis sang "Amen" over five hundred times in concert - and I'm sure at home - but we wouldn't use that on this excellent compile.

Anyway it is interesting to look at what tracks Ernst decided were worthy for 'Artist Of The Century' that DJC hasn't used.
(Removing the marketting requirements of AOTC "crowd pleasers").

AOTC Tracks missed by DJC. .
5.Trying To Get To You,
7.Blue Suede Shoes
8.My Baby Left Me,
9.Lawdy, Miss Clawdy,
11.Any Way You Want Me,
15.Anyplace Is Paradise,
21.Baby I Don't Care,
22.Treat Me Nice,
25.Trouble,
26.Hard Headed Woman,

5.Like A Baby
6.The Girl Of My Best Friend,
11.That's Someone You Never Forget,
14.Anything That's Part Of You,
20.It Hurts Me,
21.Down In The Alley,
22.Run On,
23.Tomorrow Is A Long Time,
24.Big Boss Man,
25.Guitar Man,

5.I'll Hold You In My Heart,
6.Stranger In My Own Home Town,
7.After Loving You,
8.Only The Strong Survive,
15.I'm Leavin',
20.For The Heart

Similarly AT YOUR REQUEST, features the following tracks not chosen by Ernst.

01. My Happiness 8.53 / take-home demo, SUN Studios, Memphis
07. I Got A Woman 1.56 / first album, RCA Studios, Nashville
14. I Beg Of You 1.57 / unissued, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
15. Is It So Strange 1.57 / extended play, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
17. Loving You 2.57 / single A-side, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
18. When It Rains, It Really Pours 2.57 / unissued, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
20. Young and Beautiful 4.57 / extended play, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
21. Blue Christmas 9.57 / Christmas album, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
24. Crawfish 1.58 / "King Creole" album, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
25. King Creole 1.58 / single A-side, Radio Recorders, Los Angeles
27. Ain't That Loving You, Baby 6.58 / unissued, RCA Studio B, Nashville
28. I Got Stung 6.58 / single B-side, RCA Studio B, Nashville
30. Fame and Fortune 3.60 / single B-side, RCA Studio B, Nashville
32. It Feels So Right 3.60 / "Elvis Is Back!" album, RCA Studio B, Nashville

04. Crying In The Chapel 10.60 / 1965 single A-side, RCA Studio B, Nashville
08. Suspicion 3.62 / "Pot Luck" album, RCA Studio B, Nashville
11. If I Loved You 66-67 / unissued home demo, Los Angeles
12. Trouble/Guitar Man 6.68 / "TV Special" album, Western Recorders,
17. Kentucky Rain 2.69 / 1970 single A-side, American Sound, Memphis
18. I Got A Woman 8.69 / unissued, International Hotel, Las Vegas
20. Walk A Mile In My Shoes 2.70 / "On Stage" album, International Hotel,
21. It's Your Baby, You Rock It 6.70 / "Elvis Country" album, RCA Studio B, Nashville
24. I've Got A Thing About You Baby 7.73 / 1974 single A-side, Stax Studios, Memphis

Everyone can create and fawn over their own personal selection, and if they enjoy listening to it then all is good.
However I feel 'It's Your Baby' and 'I Beg Of You' both sound pretty weak surrounded by those other classics.

'Anyway You Want me' should be included.
The funk of 'Down In the Alley' also indicated a major change in direction and on the DOC's selection, the 1966/67 key musical renaissance is not represented.

I'm also with YDKM about missing out Kentucky Rain in favour of another '69 selection.

Cheers
Piers


I've only stumbled upon this thread now, but GREAT post !

I still think the AOTC comp is the best there has ever been on Elvis and I still play it regularly.
The release I feel is the most representative for his very best work and (still) features good sound (if a bit lifeless).

There's something about the flow of the songs, on both cd-1 and cd-2, that is nearly perfect to me.
I would change a few tracks on cd-3, but the first two discs are almost flawless.

It's hard to realize Elvis didn't dominate the 60s, when you see the wealth of great material he recorded then (amidst some of the movie soundtrack dross).
And although I like The Beatles and have all their albums, I still think overall Elvis' best music sounds less dated than The Beatles' output.
I did not make a quality statement, just that it's harder to pinpoint Elvis than The Beatles in time.

That whole late 60's psychedelic/hippie period that bands and singers it seems HAD to go through (even Sinatra and certain blues shouters!), well I'm glad that Elvis didn't fall into that trap. I used to get off on that trip while 16-17, but now that "scene" has lost most of its appeal to me. :) Elvis was right all along.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:21 pm

Ben wrote:
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Kylan wrote:you don't think Too Much was worthy?

"Love Me" from that session is superior.

You forgot to add, 'IN YOUR OPINION'..........


Even though I love "Too Much" and I think it is essential, it was Elvis Presley's own opinion as well during and after the sessions that he never was really proud of "Too Much"; that it was less superior than other selections from those sessions.

"Love Me", which I really like but prefer others was one that no one can deny that Elvis through himself into with abandonment and honestly preformed it too serioiusly and made it a better song than it was. Without a doubt, Elvis loved "Love Me".

This is a good thread with the exception of the usual jabbing that always takes place....what a pity.

Doc, you are spot on with ending this compilation with "Promised Land". It ends the CD on a high note (which it should). This track list you created celebrates his life some of his many acheivements in a concise package. This is the way I want Elvis remembered and thought of.....the magnificient force that he was and is. The one that others strive to be. The one others strive to topple; The one that is the measuring stick to compare all others to. An artist that poured his heart and soul into what he loved doing best. He is second to none (sound familiar....they are correct).

If it had been ended with "My Way", "Moody Blue" or others from these last sessions, many people and some fans associate them as a reminder that a great entertainer fell so far from glorry in his latter years and remember him as a bloated over-induldged star that was self absorbed with a smug, pathetic persona that ended life much too early and use them to denouce Elvis as a overweight has been. As a fan I do not want this.

I would change a track or two for my tastes but hey this works better than any official best of cd released yet! Thanks Doc.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:18 pm

YDKM wrote:Much as I agree with the Doc'CD's worth here , personally i'd be adding a 3rd CD with 'live' stuff like my boy, big boss man, hurt, unchained melody, T.R.O.U.B.L.E. to represent major achievements and reflection of his years AFTER 1973- which seem ignored(just as Graceland do) basically accepting that artistically Elvis died after Dec 1973 , which personally i disagree with.

YDKM, i think to give an honest and overall review of his career, that would be necessarily, so i wholehearted agree. Things did move on post Aloha.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:35 pm

Deke Rivers II wrote:This is a good thread with the exception of the usual jabbing that always takes place....what a pity.

It's OK, I'm used to it by now. These people are just jealous.

Deke Rivers II wrote:Doc, you are spot on with ending this compilation with "Promised Land". It ends the CD on a high note (which it should). This track list you created celebrates his life some of his many achievements in a concise package. This is the way I want Elvis remembered and thought of.....the magnificent force that he was and is. The one that others strive to be. The one others strive to topple; The one that is the measuring stick to compare all others to. An artist that poured his heart and soul into what he loved doing best. He is second to none (sound familiar....they are correct).

If it had been ended with "My Way", "Moody Blue" or others from these last sessions, many people and some fans associate them as a reminder that a great entertainer fell so far from glory in his latter years and remember him as a bloated over-indulged star that was self absorbed with a smug, pathetic persona that ended life much too early and use them to denounce Elvis as a overweight has been. As a fan I do not want this.

I would change a track or two for my tastes but hey this works better than any official best of CD released yet! Thanks Doc.

Your compliments are greatly appreciated, and your analysis is 100% spot-frickin'-on!

Thanks.

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:51 am

PiersEIN wrote:...Then again, Elvis sang "Amen" over five hundred times in concert - and I'm sure at home -


Well, it was so easy for him to remember the lyrics..........................

Re: Elvis - At Your Request

Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:55 am

ColinB wrote:
PiersEIN wrote:...Then again, Elvis sang "Amen" over five hundred times in concert - and I'm sure at home -


Well, it was so easy for him to remember the lyrics..........................

No, it was all about the excitement of knowing JD was about to dive-bomb. It just wasn't the same at home.