Clyde McPhatter Says Hello -> August 1970

UPDATE - 13th June, 2010:

Clyde McPhatter suffered his fatal heart attack 38 years ago today when aged 39.

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Just re-read through this whole thread. C'mon Doc, that ain't Clyde McPhatter!! It's nothing like him!!!

The picture looks a bit like Joe Morgan.

Doubters. If it is not him then which performer is that?

Clyde Mcphatter was an awesome singer I love seeing this pic. Thanks Doc.

Regarding the picture Doc originally posted, I don't know if any of you were aware including the Doc, that was a screen shot taken from the TTWII clips of the party Elvis had after his Opening Show in Vegas on August 10th 1970.

Anyway, since I now know that, which I didn't at first, I have now looked at the footage again, where I took a few more screen shots from different angles.
The thing's I've noticed, for example, when One look's at the side profile, One can see the nose is very close, the eye brow on his right hand side is simular, it appears to have the same angle and length over the eye. The cheek area looks similar too, the way it takes shape around the smile, the over all smile including teeth and chin do look very close. Still, just the same, One can't be positive going by all these pictures that is in fact Clyde McPatter as there are differences too, where it does not look like Clyde McPatter either.
Take note this person does mention to Elvis in the clip in a joking way "You did all my moves" so, obviously he is a entertainer. If Chris Black is able to get in touch with the daughter and she get's to see these pictures it may help.

PEP

That's an awesome work, PEP...
It does have similar features but... just look at the eyes and compare them; the eyes of the guy with Elvis are closer and Clyde's eyes are farther apart. That's a good clue right there.
IMHO, it's not Clyde McPhatter.

The guy sure looks like Dobie Gray.

The guy sure looks like Dobie Gray.

Unfortunately, I do not think so.




Dobie Gray, "The In Crowd" sheet music, 1965




Billboard - July 6, 1963

he looks more like Dobie Gray than Clyde Mcphatter

he looks more like Dobie Gray than Clyde Mcphatter

Thanks, that is very helpful.

just an observation.

My mother watched the complete workes with me last night
and with out me saying anything she said " Theres Clyde Mcphatter !" and I said are you sure? She said "Yes thats him , you can tell by his eyes and that smile. That Is Him!"
My mother is 67 and is very knowledgable on 1950 and 60's music scene.
I didn't say when the clip can up "hey mom who do you think that is.. "
she just spotted him and said 'Theres Clyde Mcphatter"

I know this mystery is still not solved with definite proof , but I think it is very strange for someone that knows nothing about this topic has claimed that the mystery man is Clyde Mcphatter.
I don't know exactly what the odds of that is, but it's enough for me to bring this topic back up again after being 10 pages deep....

My mother watched the complete works with me last night and without me saying anything she said, "There's Clyde McPhatter!" and I said, "Are you sure? She said, "Yes that's him, you can tell by his eyes and that smile. That is him!"

My mother is 67 and very knowledgeable on 1950s and 60s music scenes.

I didn't say when the clip came up, "Hey mom, who do you think that is.. " she just spotted him and said, "There's Clyde McPhatter!"

I know this mystery is still not solved with definite proof, but I think it is very strange for someone that knows nothing about this topic claimed that the mystery man is Clyde McPhatter.

I don't know exactly what the odds of that is, but it's enough for me to bring this topic back up again after being 10 pages deep....

Thanks a lot for sharing this VERY interesting -- and totally unsolicited -- observation.

My mother watched the complete works with me last night and without me saying anything she said, "There's Clyde McPhatter!" and I said, "Are you sure? She said, "Yes that's him, you can tell by his eyes and that smile. That is him!"

My mother is 67 and very knowledgeable on 1950s and 60s music scenes.

I didn't say when the clip came up, "Hey mom, who do you think that is.. " she just spotted him and said, "There's Clyde McPhatter!"

I know this mystery is still not solved with definite proof, but I think it is very strange for someone that knows nothing about this topic claimed that the mystery man is Clyde McPhatter.

I don't know exactly what the odds of that is, but it's enough for me to bring this topic back up again after being 10 pages deep....

Thanks a lot for sharing this VERY interesting -- and totally unsolicited -- observation.

You're welcome.
We talked about this , and I was like well theres alot of people on an Elvis forum that says it isn't him or doesn't look like him totally,
and she said " well Elvis didnt look the same at that time than he did in the 50's, but he still had those distinctive features all the way till the end"

I thought that was a good point !

Found this article, which at least shows that Clyde had returned to the U.S. as of late July 1970.

Billboard Aug 01 1970 p6.jpg

Billboard - August 1, 1970

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I gotta' hand it to you, drjohn, if nothing else you are persistent.

Maybe it was McPhatter afterall. I hope it's him, so you can start sleeping at night.

Did you know Elvis met singer and hero Clyde McPhatter?



Elvis, Clyde McPhatter - August 10, 1970, Las Vegas, NV

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How cool is that?

Clyde was a HUGE influence on Elvis, his lead vocal on the 1953 Drifters #1 R&B recording of "Money Honey" is but one example.

He had recently returned from exile in the U.K., cutting a comeback LP called Welcome Home (Decca, 1970).



It was not a success. Sadly, McPhatter died just two years later, a heart attack taking him at the age of 39. As time has passed, his beautiful, unique voice has been acknowledged, and in 1987 was one of the first inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Learn about this man's influential work by clicking this link ->

The Great Clyde McPhatter

Thanks for this info, Doc. Wasn't even aware the two met...Elvis sure loved Clyde...and it's great to see a photo of the two together.i too love clydes music From the Dominoes to the early Drifters. He had a unique voice.

The only other person it could be is Jerry Butler.

Here are a few pictures. (Can't find one with that exact hair just yet.)

Jerry_Butler_sorta_smiling_young.jpg

Jerry_Butler_smiling_young.jpg

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jerry-butler_sing.jpg

Jerry_Butler_Philadephia.jpg

I've just always had him in mind, but the "all my moves" still points to something more specific. I don't know: it's just a shot, a gut feeling. I don't know.

rjm

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Butler was definitely in Chicago on August 17 because he appeared on the very first Soul Train, which was live. He was also working on his songwriting workshop in Chicago that summer. Doesn't mean he couldn't have been in Vegas the week before, but I don't know if there was a professional reason for him to have been in town. The images of Butler from the early '60s look nothing like the guy with Elvis, but by 1970 there is a similarity.

This is no sure solution, because the McPhatter vid is from way back, but at least here's video (of both):

The actual person:

rjm

It's most definitely NOT Jerry Butler.