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Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:29 pm

Love this remix. Good sound and feel to it and can see it setting the dance scene alight ~ Elvis at the age most clubbers are at now, singing about where many of them will be in their personal lives.

And any "God botherers" who think it's crude, sleazy etc. etc. watch MTV Dance where the favourite lyric for the last few years has been any variety of the words "ass" "your" and "wiggle" and rejoice there's a dance tune which speaks of passion and love as more than the objectivising of the other but about it as human emotion and desire - not just beastial rutting.

As I suggested on another thread relating to this song, this is Elvis's genius in the 1950's: liberating passion from the literature which was alien to so many peoples' experience and expressing it as the holistic gift it is encompassing mind, body and soul.

pope Benedict XVI wrote:...man is a being made up of body and soul. Man is truly himself when his body and soul are intimately united; the challenge of eros can be said to be truly overcome when this unification is achieved. Should he aspire to be pure spirit and to reject the flesh as pertaining to his animal nature alone, then spirit and body would both lose their dignity. On the other hand, should he deny the spirit and consider matter, the body, as the only reality, he would likewise lose his greatness.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:19 pm

I like it..
would like to hear the extended verison though.
Reminds me of what Elvis stated when ask about his new G.I.hair-cut.
"Well If It Was A Question Of Getting It cut Off And Not Ever Having Anymore"
Well if it was a question of not having the original anymore,
..then I would be concern.

Again, as been repeated in this topic,if it open the door to new fans that would be a good thing,like the woman said in EIC can't imagine a kid growing up not knowing who Elvis Presley is!

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:35 pm

the nerve, Priestly, of quoting your boss in Rome on this thread
is not done. For the sake of not killing this thread, and having Pep
doing overtime here, I wont go in to discussion with you on this
sick and twisted old f*rt. Keep your preaching for sunday morning,
please! Meet you in hell.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:34 pm

While I don't like the remix the video is HOT !

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:44 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:the nerve, Priestly, of quoting your boss in Rome on this thread
is not done. For the sake of not killing this thread, and having Pep
doing overtime here, I wont go in to discussion with you on this
sick and twisted old f*rt. Keep your preaching for sunday morning,
please! Meet you in hell.

It's not just the nerve, but the fact the quoted passage is completely irrelevant to any discussion or thoughts on the subject of this thread.

For some alternative opinions on the particular merits of this kind of release, there is another 'unofficial' thread running on this subject.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:19 pm

Mike S wrote:
TALLHAIR 2 wrote:the nerve, Priestly, of quoting your boss in Rome on this thread
is not done. For the sake of not killing this thread, and having Pep
doing overtime here, I wont go in to discussion with you on this
sick and twisted old f*rt. Keep your preaching for sunday morning,
please! Meet you in hell.

It's not just the nerve, but the fact the quoted passage is completely irrelevant to any discussion or thoughts on the subject of this thread.


Nope, its entirely relevant to some discussion points raised earlier:

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:...Right now, they are complaining about the sexual
'feel' of the video... for [] sake! What do these people think ? Do they
never see the real porn rap clips on mtv these days?! Play House is tame
compared to the hard stuff you can look up on music channels, every day
of the week, even on sunday morning... when some of these out of touch
christian hypocrits read their bible in church.
Elvis was just entertainment. He wasnt a frikkin' saint, and had more than
a healthy appetite for sex. Please keep your sick morals about whats good
or bad in life where it belongs : deep down south in the good ol' USA.
Were doing just fine here, without the twisted christian morals.
Go and clean your own church backyard first. Plenty of work for you
there.


Joe Car wrote:As much as this pains me, I have to agree with Ger!


Swithin StCleeve wrote:Yea, all reasonable argument goes out the window when you toss god into the equasion.


The relevance of the quote is that not all christians are hypocritically vociferous in their condemnation of "Baby Let's Play House" and the themes contained therein. I used one of the finest theologians of the last eighty years to support my point that Elvis, in this song and others, opened up artistic representations of the passion of eros to a whole generation who had been locked out of it by the elitist inaccessability of those genres of literature and art. The lyrics of Baby Lets Play House speak of the emotional, intangible, aspect of love - Elvis's performance spoke of the physical aspect of love. "Man is truly himself when his body and soul are intimately united" is entirely relevant.

What may have escaped the attention of some, after the red mist of disdain descended, is that I was in fact agreeing (to an extent) with what Ger and others have said. However to contradict those who might, mistakenly, object to Elvis on some "moral" grounds from this perspective of disdain and wish their exile doesn't work. Always best to enlighten them with an authoritative source from their own tradition - the complexity of whose thought might be startling enough to prompt them to think again.

Anyways, as people continue to reflect on Elvis and his music from the perspective of their own life experience, so do I.

Baby Let's Play House? A great song and great performance which describes the many facets of passion. The new remix? Great sounding and a more mature treatment of the subject than the purely objectifying current norm. A thought I have contributed to one of those other threads.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:03 pm

Elvis Priestly wrote:
Always best to enlighten them with an authoritative source from their own tradition - the complexity of whose thought might be startling enough to prompt them to think again.

About a pop song? Hardly.

The new remix? Great sounding and a more mature treatment of the subject than the purely objectifying current norm.

More mature...you jest surely?

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:05 pm

I love this remix, and seeing as I am just about to turn 18 (on wednesday!), I know my friends, who dont even know about Elvis that much (apart from ALLC), will love it too- especially when drunk and in a nightclub :D .

ps>
I shall be playing it at my party on Sat. 8) :D

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:05 pm

anywhere i can download this remix?
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Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:12 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:I felt good when at a school party, years ago, I watched my son and
other 8 year olds jumping up and down to ALLC in the class room!
And I hope, with Play house, kids once again will party to this remix,
.


I completely agree with this
Watching youg people dancing to ALLC in night clubs 5 years ago was something I could never have imagined as an elvis fan . I was so moved and so proud of our hero
Travelling a lot at that time that's something I saw in Paris, munich, budapest, Prague and London
If you don't like the remixes, don't feel obliged to listen to them but just think about this
I greatly admire the people behind the great "the man and his music" mag but I couldn't understand why they were so against that remix why they condemn them so violently
as ger said elvis'music is not sacred that's ENTERTAINMENT

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:33 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:I felt good when at a school party, years ago, I watched my son and
other 8 year olds jumping up and down to ALLC in the class room!
And I hope, with Play house, kids once again will party to this remix,
and if some will afterwards remember the singer was one Elvis Presley,
than thats 2 bonus points. My son is 13 now. Elvis is never discussed
in class.... He's not part of their lives. Ofcourse not! Sinatra wasnt part
of mine when I discovered Elvis in 57...! So let the remixers do what
they want, and let the kids decide if it rocks!
Its ONLY entertainment after all. Nothing more, nothing less.


Well said, Ger. I really didn't appreciate you religifying this discussion (I think I just made a new word), but I can get behind these latter thoughts. Love or hate this thing, the world keeps on turning. I hope it'll be successful. I remember the days of ALLC. I was playing pool one time when it came on over the jukebox, mixed right in with more contemporary artists. Another time, I was in an indy nightclub, which usually plays Red Hot Chili Peppers, Oasis, Ocean Colour Scene, Arctic Monkeys (etc), but the ALLC remix found its way in there and all these indy kids and 20-somethings were dancing to it (myself included, of course). Great times!

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:49 pm

mr burrows wrote:I love this remix, and seeing as I am just about to turn 18 (on wednesday!), I know my friends, who dont even know about Elvis that much (apart from ALLC), will love it too- especially when drunk and in a nightclub :D .

ps>
I shall be playing it at my party on Sat. 8) :D


Keep an eye on Chat Talk on Wednesday and I shall send you a Card!

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:53 am

i don't like this at all! it sucks. and it's not cause i don't like remixes. but i only like good ones. and i don't think this is good

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:41 pm

PEP wrote:The ones that are against this remix you need to open up your balance of imagination a little more, in my opinion, meaning, like the video starts out, it asks the question "What If Elvis was Born 40 years Later?"

So lets go down that road, lets say he never existed until now, Ask yourself this first. what kind of music Am I(meaning you) into?

Obviously if your not into this time of techno type of music it doesn't matter who is doing it then.

Right?

But lets say you are into this style of music which obviously many people are in the world today, who would you rather see sing this song?

Would it be better if another person or another band would have done the song since it is there anyway and someone was going to do it or was offered to do it?

Or would you rather have Elvis do it and once again look at it on the other side of the coin of imagination and pretend he never touched the song 52 years ago.

Would you like it any better then?

The thing is, we as Elvis fans appreciate and understand most of what Elvis recorded in his career as it stands and as they were recorded, however there are tons of people who never will, because what was the beat, the beat, the beat back then is not the same beat today, it's as simple as that.

I remember as a kid when the 68' Comeback was out and I listened to Elvis sing songs like Trouble, Jailhouse Rock, Heartbreak Hotel, etc from the special I at the time as young as I was didn't understand or appreciate the original versions as they were as I thought they were pass A, how times have changed.

So on that side of the coin I can understand and appreciate why something like this has to be done to keep Elvis living and to be noticed into the next generation, once some are hooked you may find as they get older they as well will come to understand and appreciate what Elvis was all about an explore his catologue.

I would much rather see something like this happening to Elvis' music then hearing about the ETA's winning some contest put on by EPE/CKx on TV in the news or what's being done in Memphis with them or on some cruise ship.

Like it, Hate it or love it, this type of remix should be supported, because the reality is, material like this is what is going to bring attention to people who thought Elvis was just a fat man in a jumpsuit looking like an impersonator.

Re-releases of his original material is an illusion that Elvis is making a dent in the charts in other countries like England as I'm guessing the people that are buying a lot of those re releases are not the general public but Hardcore Elvis collectors and really in the end that's not what we want, what we want or at least I do, I want as many new people to get into Elvis as possible and then have them end up exploring what else he did.

What this remix does is show that Elvis can compete with today's new artists as his voice, looks, charisma along with choice in song or songs proves that he can still out shine them all because he was what Rock N Roll was all about in one package and still can be in anyone's eyes today.

An that's what is more cool than anything else when something like this happens.

So, shouldn't the additude be that this is F@@king great and I want as many people to take notice of this song and to be played anywhere and to have the Buzz happening again for Elvis to be talked about in a positive way just like it appeared to be for ALLC, where the man got some friggen respect back.

That's what I want and I think that is what Elvis deserves.

Don't you think?

Think about how cool this package is that is coming out.
Baby Let's Play House - Radio Edit
Baby Let's Play House - Extended Version
Baby Let's Play House - Original Version
Baby Let's Play House - Ringtone
Baby Let's Play House - Video Clip

It's all there, the new fan even gets to hear the original version, plus the CD will be payable on your record player, awesome idea !

Any which way you look at it, this song was about Sex, 1955 Sex, but sex just the same, what's being done in this video is rather tame compared to still what else is out there.

Would Elvis like this, you bet, to think other wise is silly.

Elvis knew if you didn't change with the times your dead in this business, he himself said so in more than one interview.

Think out of the box not in the box.



PEP 8)

I absolutely agree with this. This could be a great new opportunity for Elvis to reach the mainstream and to be recognized by his music and not by all the weird things many times is related to.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:22 pm

I'm always interested in reading Tallhair's point of view on anything from the wonderful world of Elvis. There are many other fans who feel the same way. In fact, a post of his from this thread has been re-posted by Elvis Information Network who feel his statement is the last word on the matter. However, I feel I have to contribute my thoughts & feelings and take issue with some of what he says.

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:Is Elvis or Rock n Roll sacred?
No, but please take those great rock 'n' roll records on their own terms for what they are and treat them with some respect. Chopping them around and adding 'beats' is completely unnecessary, and it's disrepectful to the intentions of the original musicians and producers. And it patronises listeners, too.

Listen to what Sam and the boys did to Monroes Blue Moon Of
Kentucky, way back in 54?! The weeping vocals and tiny mandolin
heard on the original were blasted away by electric guitar and gutso
vocals. Or the version of Blue Moon, from Broadway musical to... yes,
to what exactly? It was so different!
I agree completely, but Elvis & co. re-interpreted those songs and made them their own. What they didn't do is get Sam Phillips to tape an old Bill Monroe 78rpm record so they could then play over the top of bits of it. I would definitely want to hear a new re-working of the song Baby Let's Play House in a modern idiom if it was worked up from scratch by today's musicians and singers.

I felt good when at a school party, years ago, I watched my son and
other 8 year olds jumping up and down to ALLC in the class room!
Cute story but most 8 year olds are completely lacking in musical taste & discernment and will jump around to anything!

And I hope, with Play house, kids once again will party to this remix,
and if some will afterwards remember the singer was one Elvis Presley,
than thats 2 bonus points. My son is 13 now. Elvis is never discussed
in class.... He's not part of their lives. Ofcourse not! Sinatra wasnt part
of mine when I discovered Elvis in 57...!
Well, I hope Elvis is never discussed in a school class. Making him part of a dull history lesson is a sure way to kill off the vitality of his music.

So let the remixers do what
they want, and let the kids decide if it rocks!
Why should the 'remixers' be allowed to bastardise someone else's work with the help of a computer and a drum program? Let them make their own music not ruin classic recordings. And the 'kids' should be allowed to discover Elvis through his original records as, no doubt, we all did. These recordings defy the whims of musical fashion as that 'remix' never will.

Its ONLY entertainment after all. Nothing more, nothing less.
Is it really only about entertainment? If rock 'n' roll music and Elvis is just a means of temporary escape from our humdrum lives then why would we all invest so much time and energy and emotion in it? Yes, of course, entertainment is part of the package but surely there's more to it than just momentary diversion. I find Elvis's recording of Baby Let's Play House uplifting, challenging, stimulating, inspiring etc etc in ways too varied and intangible to even begin to describe. It's only 2 and a quarter minutes long but that's the power of music. .

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:37 pm

Very Well Said Purple Gang.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:20 pm

Little Darlin wrote:Very Well Said Purple Gang.


Thanks for reading! Everyone seems to have a strong opinion about this topic and this is just my contribution to an interesting debate. Like many debates much of it comes down to personal opinion. There's probably no right or wrong answers to any of this and anyway the MB would be pretty dull if we all agreed with each other all the time.
smt176

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:20 pm

You make some valid points, Purple Gang. But its still only rock n roll.
And lets face one important thing, not mentioned so far...
Elvis never composed one song in his life. He was a brilliant singer/
performer, did some great interpretations of songs made famous
by others ( Little Richard, Chuck, etc) but it was foremost bread on the
table, for him and his family. If he had been a serious musician, why
on this frikkin' earth did he record tons of 'throwaway' songs? Both
in the 60s and 70s?! Movie contracts? In part. But he hardly ever showed
his teeth, and as a good boy did what was exspected of him.... I can live
with that. Dont know what I had done in his position, with a 500 000 dollar
cheque lying in front of me? if only he would do that particular movie,
and those particular songs. He obviously didnt take his music all that
serious, except his gospel songs.... Remember what he said at the
1970 Houston press conference about his Sun recordings....?!
The music he made brought fame, money, and all the girls he wanted.
And I believe that was exactly what he exspected from life....

One last thing: at my son's school music from all parts of the world
is talked about. Its called music class. Two hours a week. The teacher
dicusses eveything from Wolfgang Amadeus to Hank Williams to the
Beatles, and todays rap, techno, etc. Had it not been for Junkie XL
our friend would not have been mentioned at all, during class.
That's the simple reality of today. Kids dont go out to explore Elvis
on their own... Some know him from tv, and giggle when they see and
hear 30-50 year old songs. The same goes for Hank and the Beatles.
Its not their world. Snoop dog is, 50 cents is... Its all about fashion and
dance beat. Why should they care about what great music was made
50 or 250 years ago?! Maybe, just maybe, when they get to a certain age
they will 'listen' to it. But right now kids between 13 to 18 dont wanna
hear old stuff their parents or grandparents like(d) .
So bring on the dance mixes . It surely doesnt hurt Elvis' image.
You people are far too serious about 2 min and 30 seconds of good
time entertainment.
Emotions? Life style? Sure, to us, 30, 40, 50 year olds , Elvis still is
more than simple entertainment... But to a billion young kids he means
little more than a name to a singer from long ago.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:37 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:Elvis never composed one song in his life. He was a brilliant singer/
performer, did some great interpretations of songs made famous
by others ( Little Richard, Chuck, etc) but it was foremost bread on the
table, for him and his family. If he had been a serious musician, why
on this frikkin' earth did he record tons of 'throwaway' songs? .


You'll get hell for that on here!

But, of course, you're right. He was a pop star, not a proper creative musician. He made great records, but he hadn't the artistic 'muse' of others. Even back in the fifties, when it was unusual to be a singer/songwriter, many of Rock & Roll's great names penned their own stuff.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:45 pm

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:You make some valid points, Purple Gang. But its still only rock n roll.


Thanks for responding Ger. :) Of course, you're right, it's only rock 'n' roll and I'm sure it's robust enough to survive whatever is thrown at it. Maybe I made it sound too precious and serious.

[Interesting to read about your son's music lessons. I hope they teach pop music in a good way and don't make it hard work for the students, or suck all the fun out of it!]

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:51 pm

Swithin wrote..

He was a pop star, not a proper creative musician.


I disagree .. there's a suprise hey? :wink:

Elvis wasn't a Pop Singer at all. He had Rock and Roll and Gospel Music running through his Veins. His Style and Performances changed the Music Scene back then like a swift kick up the Backside.

If Todays Youth ARE to learn about Elvis .. I woud much rather they heard the Orginal Version of Baby ..and not some souped up Version of it. If they wanted MY Support for the release well they should have extended the Original Version of it and added their piece to that. .. that way the Youth of Today could hear what Rock and Roll is about not a new found version of it.

The Purple Gang wrote

Maybe I made it sound too precious and serious


No you didn't .. your post was spot on .. you said everything I wanted to say but couldn't think how to put it.

It sounds like the Dutch have a better Education System than ours .. over here .. all our children learn about is how to sing Sea Shanties.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:19 am

I tend to agree with Gers view in this thread. i watched it and its ok for attracting 'new young fans'. :roll:

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:03 pm

Elvis' 50s style and voice sounds ridiculous when mixed with a modern backing track! If they must continue doing these mixes, why not focus on his post 67 voice - where it DOES work well. How bout Wearin' That Loved On Look, Change Of Habit or Got My Mojo Workin for example? A SUN record for fooks sake!!!! What next, Hearts Of Stone??? :?

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:59 pm

The Purple Gang wrote:I agree completely, but Elvis & co. re-interpreted those songs and made them their own. What they didn't do is get Sam Phillips to tape an old Bill Monroe 78rpm record so they could then play over the top of bits of it. I would definitely want to hear a new re-working of the song Baby Let's Play House in a modern idiom if it was worked up from scratch by today's musicians and singers.


But is has been reinterpreted in a modern idiom -- love them or hate them, remixes are idiomatic of today's pop culture. I know what you're getting at, but classic records are sometimes dredged up and given a new treatment, sometimes poorly, but sometimes, with success. And this derives from the modern synth / pop / dance / rbn aesthetic, which is built heavily on sampling. For another recent example, which I'm sure some were up in arms about, take the dance remix of Pink Floyd's "We Don't Need No Education".

TALLHAIR 2 wrote:You make some valid points, Purple Gang. But its still only rock n roll.
And lets face one important thing, not mentioned so far...
Elvis never composed one song in his life. He was a brilliant singer/
performer, did some great interpretations of songs made famous
by others ( Little Richard, Chuck, etc) but it was foremost bread on the
table, for him and his family. If he had been a serious musician, why
on this frikkin' earth did he record tons of 'throwaway' songs? Both
in the 60s and 70s?! Movie contracts? In part. But he hardly ever showed
his teeth, and as a good boy did what was exspected of him.... I can live
with that. Dont know what I had done in his position, with a 500 000 dollar
cheque lying in front of me? if only he would do that particular movie,
and those particular songs. He obviously didnt take his music all that
serious, except his gospel songs.... Remember what he said at the
1970 Houston press conference about his Sun recordings....?!
The music he made brought fame, money, and all the girls he wanted.
And I believe that was exactly what he exspected from life....


I more or less agree with the general sentiment, but you're still selling Elvis short. He showed the most reverence for gospel, but he clearly crafted other masterpieces with equal reverence, like "Heartbreak Hotel", "Are You Lonesome Tonight?", "It Hurts Me", "If I Can Dream", "Long Black Limousine" and "Danny Boy". And while fame, money and girls were major driving forces, they weren't the only major forces in his life. I think Elvis was very concerned with doing the "right thing", which meant supporting other people around him, and (tragically) getting locked into patterns and routines. His expectations were deeper than those around him could ever grasp -- hence his interest in mysticism and retreats at the Self Realization Center, followed by many retreats into himself. Lame for some, but a big part of who he was. Having fun was also a part of his aesthetic and appeal. It's when the fun slipped away from his life that he arguably gave up on living. Still, he could certainly have gone in further directions, and there was very little dissent or serious long-term focus in him. However, he still has one of the most momentous catalogues in the history of recorded music -- and he achieved all of that without writing a lick.

Re: "Baby lets Play House" REMIX is back on youtube

Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:32 pm

just had a listen to the first remix.

The Elvis voice bit is fine but the rest is like having lemonade with your cornflakes.