This is Elvis DVD (Extended Version)
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This is Elvis DVD (Extended Version)
Could they have found a worse performance than "Love Me" from the Omaha train wreck show on 6/19/77? I'm not trying to start another CBS 77 thread, but there were a lot of decent performances from those two shows, espcially the Rapids City show on 6/21/77....Here are a few that would have been tons better:
1) Trying to get to you
2) It's now or Never
3) I really don't want to know
4) How Great Thou Art
6) Hurt
Not to be picky, but the sound is not great on either DVD....In spite of these issues, I'm glad to retire my VHS versions of this otherwise good movie. There are plenty of good performances too.
1) Trying to get to you
2) It's now or Never
3) I really don't want to know
4) How Great Thou Art
6) Hurt
Not to be picky, but the sound is not great on either DVD....In spite of these issues, I'm glad to retire my VHS versions of this otherwise good movie. There are plenty of good performances too.
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The whole idea of the end this documetary was to tell the story of the decline of a superstar. To do that, you show great performances then you show the worst footage from 1977. So they used "are you lonesome tonight", then because of some music rights problem they replaced with "love me", which was even worse. If they had shown one of the great performances, it would not have made sense within the focus of the documentary.
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That's right.ekenee wrote:The whole idea of the end this documetary was to tell the story of the decline of a superstar. To do that, you show great performances then you show the worst footage from 1977. So they used "are you lonesome tonight", then because of some music rights problem they replaced with "love me", which was even worse. If they had shown one of the great performances, it would not have made sense within the focus of the documentary.
It was a documentary not an Elvis Love Fest!
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Decline of a superstar?
I still remember 1977 pretty well and Elvis was still held in very high regard in 1977. His shows still sold out in less than an hour (usually) and he was one of the top road acts even in 1977. At the time of his death, he had songs on the charts and all over the radio....I think Elvis was moving toward being a "different type of performer" by 1977. I think if he had lived, he would have done more songs like Hurt....His 1977 versions of Fever even sound have a little jazz in them. I don't think he was in serious decline (career wise). He was still very bookable in 1977 and had gigs scheduled for the rest of the year.
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The choice to include My Way is an obvious one as it was a highlight from the CBS shows, but the inclusion of Love Me is quite odd. There were loads of terrible performances to choose from, but if the intention was to show a positive picture of EP's ability to perform at the end, there were a few redeeming tracks such as Unchained Meloday, Trying To Get To You, I Really Don't Want To Know, etc that wouldn't have shown how tragic the EP show had become.
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Re: Decline of a superstar?
You may be right.tsc4280 wrote:I still remember 1977 pretty well and Elvis was still held in very high regard in 1977. His shows still sold out in less than an hour (usually) and he was one of the top road acts even in 1977. At the time of his death, he had songs on the charts and all over the radio....I think Elvis was moving toward being a "different type of performer" by 1977. I think if he had lived, he would have done more songs like Hurt....His 1977 versions of Fever even sound have a little jazz in them. I don't think he was in serious decline (career wise). He was still very bookable in 1977 and had gigs scheduled for the rest of the year.
But how much longer could that have continued ?
Those fans seeing him live in '77 must have been sorely disappointed............
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I bought the DVD but haven't had time to screen it yet for more than a minute or two...
I was sorely disappointed when I got the VHS version and saw that sub-par (and poorly captured) version of "Love Me,"....The original use of "Are Yo Lonesome Tongiht" was far more effective, no matter how one views it.
I was sorely disappointed when I got the VHS version and saw that sub-par (and poorly captured) version of "Love Me,"....The original use of "Are Yo Lonesome Tongiht" was far more effective, no matter how one views it.
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TSC 4280 wrote:
I still remember 1977 pretty well and Elvis was still held in very high regard in 1977. His shows still sold out in less than an hour (usually) and he was one of the top road acts even in 1977. At the time of his death, he had songs on the charts and all over the radio....I think Elvis was moving toward being a "different type of performer" by 1977. I think if he had lived, he would have done more songs like Hurt....His 1977 versions of Fever even sound have a little jazz in them. I don't think he was in serious decline (career wise). He was still very bookable in 1977 and had gigs scheduled for the rest of the year.
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I agree with what you say. Elvis was all over the radio and records on the charts. Sold out concerts. I know all of that.
You may have missed my point.
I was speaking thru the mind of a documentary film maker who was trying to make a point by certain song inclusions. You must know that any documetary is slanted by the editing choices that are made.
"my way" for example is about looking back at one's own life.
The first line says it all, "and now the end is near".
And they really didn't show much of the song, but rather segments of his life as it played.
And BTW, with all the hoopla over the DVD I think the Movie is very out-dated at this point. Back then it was all we had for a career retrospective. Something new, better, longer, and more complete should be put together.
I still remember 1977 pretty well and Elvis was still held in very high regard in 1977. His shows still sold out in less than an hour (usually) and he was one of the top road acts even in 1977. At the time of his death, he had songs on the charts and all over the radio....I think Elvis was moving toward being a "different type of performer" by 1977. I think if he had lived, he would have done more songs like Hurt....His 1977 versions of Fever even sound have a little jazz in them. I don't think he was in serious decline (career wise). He was still very bookable in 1977 and had gigs scheduled for the rest of the year.
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I agree with what you say. Elvis was all over the radio and records on the charts. Sold out concerts. I know all of that.
You may have missed my point.
I was speaking thru the mind of a documentary film maker who was trying to make a point by certain song inclusions. You must know that any documetary is slanted by the editing choices that are made.
"my way" for example is about looking back at one's own life.
The first line says it all, "and now the end is near".
And they really didn't show much of the song, but rather segments of his life as it played.
And BTW, with all the hoopla over the DVD I think the Movie is very out-dated at this point. Back then it was all we had for a career retrospective. Something new, better, longer, and more complete should be put together.
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In the condition that he was in during 76/77, it is highly unlikely he could have handled being on the road for months at a time touring international markets. He could barely function while trying to tackle short 2 week tours of secondary U.S. markets.LonnieBeale wrote:Elvis still hadn't done a world tour, so he could always had done that. That could have lasted for years. There were many parts of the world he hadn't gone to, it would have been huge.
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WHOEVER BOUGHT THE DVD "THIS IS ELVIS"...I PLAN TO BUY NEXT WEEK. I HAVE THE VHS TAPE THAT I BOUGHT WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT. IT DIDN'T HAVE "ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT", BUT THE TAPE I RECORDED ON TELEVISON HAD THE "ARE YOU LONESOME TONIGHT".
DOES THE NEW DVD HAVE THE SONG? PLEASE HELP.
ALSO, DOES IT HAVE EXTRA THAT WE NEVER SEEN BEFORE? IS IT WORTH IT TO BUY?
DOES THE NEW DVD HAVE THE SONG? PLEASE HELP.
ALSO, DOES IT HAVE EXTRA THAT WE NEVER SEEN BEFORE? IS IT WORTH IT TO BUY?
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And have they replaced the truncated songs with proper full versions ?sheila wrote:WHOEVER BOUGHT THE DVD "THIS IS ELVIS"...DOES IT HAVE EXTRA THAT WE NEVER SEEN BEFORE?
IS IT WORTH IT TO BUY?
Doubt it somehow....................
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When you buy This Is Elvis you get 2 versions in the one package, the theatrical version (that is the version only ever shown in the cinema back in 1981...not seen on TV or video ever) and the 'video' version which has been shown on TV in many edited versions.
The theatrical version has Are You Lonesome Tonight, the 'video' version has Love Me (but no Are You Lonesome Tonight), so yes to answer your question you to get both, do you get anything extended....no, but then again if you've never seen the theatrical version you're in for some interesting language/dialogue from Elvis (that was filmed for but never used in Elvis On Tour).
The theatrical version is in 2 channel, the video version is in 1 channel.
Theatrical picture quality of My Way (& all CBS Elvis In Concert footage) is in inferior picture quality to that of the 'video' version. So together over both discs you get the best of both worlds.
When you buy This Is Elvis you get 2 versions in the one package, the theatrical version (that is the version only ever shown in the cinema back in 1981...not seen on TV or video ever) and the 'video' version which has been shown on TV in many edited versions.
The theatrical version has Are You Lonesome Tonight, the 'video' version has Love Me (but no Are You Lonesome Tonight), so yes to answer your question you to get both, do you get anything extended....no, but then again if you've never seen the theatrical version you're in for some interesting language/dialogue from Elvis (that was filmed for but never used in Elvis On Tour).
The theatrical version is in 2 channel, the video version is in 1 channel.
Theatrical picture quality of My Way (& all CBS Elvis In Concert footage) is in inferior picture quality to that of the 'video' version. So together over both discs you get the best of both worlds.
Ray
" Do you know anything about him ?
Do I know anything about him ?
I was raised in his home town
Are you going to be saying something to him, are you going to talk to him ?
Well that just all do depends
Are you looking forward to seeing him ?
Sure
Why don't you show us where he comes in here
He's coming through this door here, there's two doors in this entrance
he comes through this door here in this entrance and then open it back like this
then this one the other door comes back like this."
" Do you know anything about him ?
Do I know anything about him ?
I was raised in his home town
Are you going to be saying something to him, are you going to talk to him ?
Well that just all do depends
Are you looking forward to seeing him ?
Sure
Why don't you show us where he comes in here
He's coming through this door here, there's two doors in this entrance
he comes through this door here in this entrance and then open it back like this
then this one the other door comes back like this."
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So, after all this time & all the supposition about what they might do with this film...
...like restore the edited songs to full length
...like show more of the Graceland interior footage
...like show more music clips
...like remove the reconstructed dramatic bits
...like remove the cheesy commentary
......in the end they leave everything 'as was'............
Oh, well.......................
...like restore the edited songs to full length
...like show more of the Graceland interior footage
...like show more music clips
...like remove the reconstructed dramatic bits
...like remove the cheesy commentary
......in the end they leave everything 'as was'............
Oh, well.......................
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Especially (Stay Away) Joe Esposito' overdubbed "man, can Hawaii get sticky" on to the footage of Presley (in the limo) leaving his (16th April '72) afternoon gig at the Veteran's Memorial Coliseum, in Jacksonville, Florida! (A photograph taken from the opening number of this concert made it's way on to the cover of the Elvis As Recorded At Madison Square Garden alblum!)
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I'm sure I saw the theatrical version on TV here in the States in 1982-3. It was not out on video yet as I recall, which is why I made a point of watching it!Ray wrote:Sheila
When you buy This Is Elvis you get 2 versions in the one package, the theatrical version (that is the version only ever shown in the cinema back in 1981...not seen on TV or video ever) and the 'video' version which has been shown on TV in many edited versions.
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THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT INFORMATIONS!! I'M PLANNING TO BUY THE DVD NEXT WEEK!! LOOKING FORWARD TO IT!!
Ray wrote:Sheila
When you buy This Is Elvis you get 2 versions in the one package, the theatrical version (that is the version only ever shown in the cinema back in 1981...not seen on TV or video ever) and the 'video' version which has been shown on TV in many edited versions.
The theatrical version has Are You Lonesome Tonight, the 'video' version has Love Me (but no Are You Lonesome Tonight), so yes to answer your question you to get both, do you get anything extended....no, but then again if you've never seen the theatrical version you're in for some interesting language/dialogue from Elvis (that was filmed for but never used in Elvis On Tour).
The theatrical version is in 2 channel, the video version is in 1 channel.
Theatrical picture quality of My Way (& all CBS Elvis In Concert footage) is in inferior picture quality to that of the 'video' version. So together over both discs you get the best of both worlds.
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