Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:32 am
Thu Jul 10, 2003 6:33 am
Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:13 pm
Thu Jul 10, 2003 9:34 pm
Fri Jul 11, 2003 1:35 am
BobbyTCB wrote:Whether it was deliberate, I don't know. But their claim that the red part of the red & black Cisco suit in the photo used on the He Touched Me cover was not really red, but rather a reflection sort of gives an impression.
Mon Jul 14, 2003 6:02 am
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:50 am
traffickingelvis wrote:I believe this to be truly genuine.
traffickingelvis wrote:I will look into this matter with all my capabilities and resources to prove the authenticity of this piece.
traffickingelvis wrote:My primary intention was to share a piece of Elvis memorabilia that the fans would love to see, too much is hidden by collectors never to be seen or heard. I was more than happy to display this piece on Joseph's website. I have no intention to sell this piece now or in the future, the price was just a number I picked. I should have just said this item is NOT FOR SALE.
traffickingelvis wrote:In regard to the 4 Cisco Kids suits this is the information that was given to me; as well as the information that the colour of the leather suit on the "He Touched Me" LP was the green suit and not red. The photographed red was due to the light shown on Elvis and/or the high speed film that was used that tended to create a red cast. This can clearly be seen on the rare ‘He Touched Me’ US Single on Joseph’s website if you click on page 13 of the RCA singles 45rpm section.
traffickingelvis wrote:In all my research I have had to add new information and at times remove information that was incorrectly reported to me. I will be in Memphis this coming August and will make a trip to the Gibson Guitar Museum. If there is a Red Cisco kid jumpsuit on display I will add this to my article.
traffickingelvis wrote:As far as the invoices go many of them are very sketchy. They would say along the lines of ‘white suit with black’ or whatever. None describe the suit in any detail. So it is very difficult to match them up, which I was quite aware of in my research and was told this by some of the top experts. Keep in mind it was us fans who gave the suits with their colourful names such as ‘Cisco’ etc.
traffickingelvis wrote:Look at the facts:
IC Costume Label with IC in gold thread.
Letter from the original owner.
Letter from Colonel Tom Parker on International Hotel stationery w/envelope.
ID from the gentleman with International logo.
Photo of him holding the jumpsuit.
Copy of pay stubs.
IC Costume hanger.
traffickingelvis wrote:I have purchased millions of $ of Elvis related material and have sold all over the world. I am right now in the middle of another purchase and am planning to have it on display on Joseph's great website, he has great vision and what he is planning will be a great service to all of us. "
traffickingelvis wrote:I am always asked when interviewed or people who have seen my collection how do you know if it is real. My answer is I look them in the eye, shake their hand and my decision is made. In this case the eyes and handshake told me what I already needed to know. All the rest was added dressing.
Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:39 am
Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:51 am
(deleted - see guidelines #9) wrote: ..... What amazes me is that a "seasoned" collector who has spent "millions" of dollars on EP memorbilia has never consulted Bill Belew or Gene Doucette for their verdict.
(deleted - see guidelines #9) wrote:Seems like far too many holes in this story, not to mention that the one piece black with red leather upper, is the one shown on the "He Touched Me" album, not the green as indicated in this post.
(deleted - see guidelines #9) wrote:My friend a HANDSHAKE does not make a piece legit.....sorry.
Tue Jul 15, 2003 10:30 am
Tue Jul 15, 2003 12:26 pm
Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:23 pm
I will look into this matter with all my capabilities and resources to prove the authenticity of this piece.
Tue Jul 15, 2003 10:29 pm
Tue Jul 15, 2003 10:30 pm
Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:08 am
KingOfTheJungle wrote:EP Collector is right, the studs in the two pictures are different, and has anyone considered this?
Also didn't the text posted on the trafficking elvis site indicate that the suit on the cover was the BLACK cisco?? Methinks someone is trying to mislead....
KingOfTheJungle wrote:Belew's words are strong evidence, stronger than:
2.IC Costume Label with IC in gold thread. & hanger (Doesnt mean it's Elvis's)
3. Letter from Colonel Tom Parker on International Hotel stationery w/envelope (can be faked)
4. Pay stubs (can be faked).
KingOfTheJungle wrote:If the owner TRULY has Photos of the original owner holding the suit, I would Love to see them.
Of course, EVEN photos of the the "original owner" holding the suit would not be the last word, but it would help immensely.
KingOfTheJungle wrote:But I have a feeling the owner isnt intent on discovering the TRUTH, only proving his suit is Elvis's since he says .... ....
KingOfTheJungle wrote:I understand that if the suit were not real the owner would have lost a great investment, but IMO the truth is more important that money.
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