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Soundboard Listing Problem

Tue Jun 17, 2003 11:33 am

Keith -

It was brought to my attention that you have posted a Presley soundboard list on another Web site without any other credit but your name:

Concerts Released Professionally Recorded – Soundboard or Multi Track
(All Shows - Las Vegas unless stated otherwise)
(No Audience Recordings)

Bold – released by BMG / RCA
+ means you need both      ~ means same material


As the current list remains about 80% of my work with barely any revision by your hand, and as we <u>already</u> discussed -- and resolved -- this omission previously on this very MB, I would appreciate your doing me two favors.

One, please add my name to the credits for the list ASAP, and cite FECC MB as the original location of where I posted this.

Two, please do not post this list under just your name any more.

I trust I won't have to ask a third time. Thanks.

Tue Jun 17, 2003 12:22 pm

Hi doc,

I think that's not a big deal and no reason to worry. A lot of us guys have written their own lists for years. At least the facts remain and we can't do anything against the point, that our lists look very similar.

When you came up with one of your inital post regarding this subject - and I think it was at the first FECC mb (that is two steps far away from now) - you brought to our attention, that you were inspired by one of my posts, where I had posted a rough list with almost all available soundboards. Later on you skipped to name that source and I was never angry, 'cause you and a lot of other people spent a lot of effort in this list.

Furthermore I remember as well that you once came up with a more detailed listin our previous messageboard and you've stated that it was posted by Johnny Savage at a newsgroup.

So you see the sources are widely spread.

I never asked Keith to occur in his list of sources, 'cause I'm still doing my own list and it is different in various points to the one that Keith has prepared. Although I have also benefited from the facts that have been posted at this mb, I will and can not name each and every person that came up with the right fact, cause a lot of that came clearer in our discussions.

In my opinion it is a nice thing to put such a list online - visible to us all. That's what Keith is and was doing.

This is only my point of view, but I'd like to emphasise.

Taniolo

Wed Jun 18, 2003 4:00 am

LOL@Johnny


Father Gibbons
(the squirrel) :wink:

Wed Jun 18, 2003 5:52 am

Taniolo -

Your list, whatever it was, looked nothing like what I ultimately came up with. On the other hand, what Keith is posting apparently all over the internet is 80% taken from my hard work.

Keith -

Any Web site that refuses to honor a credit by Dr. John Carpenter is a place that I would think you might want to disassociate yourself from.

Do what you wish, but know that I don't appreciate your inability to honor your promise to me about credit. And you can count me out of any future correspondences here.

Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:04 am

You mean this one Doc??

All soundboards released to date:

08-03-69 Opening Night '69 Las Vegas, NV
08-24-69 Here I Go Again Las Vegas, NV
01-26-70 Walk A Mile In My Shoes Las Vegas, NV
01-26-70 True Love Travels On A Gravel Road Las Vegas, NV
01-26-71 All Things Are Possible Las Vegas, NV
01-28-71 Lean, Mean & Kickin' Butt Las Vegas, NV
01-29-71 Snowbird Las Vegas, NV
10-11-71 The Power Of Zhazam Boston, MA
01-26-72 Opening Night 1972 Las Vegas, NV
04-09-72 Live In Virginia Hampton Roads, VA
04-10-72 Carry Me Back To Old Virginia Richmond, VA
04-14-72 Sweet Carolina Greensboro, NC
04-18-72 Welcome In San Antone San Antone, TX
08-11-72 Blazing Into The Darkness Las Vegas, NV
08-11-72 Elvis At Full Blast Las Vegas, NV
08-15-72 I'll Remember You Las Vegas, NV
01-12-73 Alternate Aloha Honolulu, HA
01-29-73 Don't Think Twice Las Vegas, NV
02-05-73 It's A Matter Of Time Las Vegas, NV
03-03-74 Livestock Live Houston, TX
03-03-74 Event Number 8 Houston, TX
03-16-74 Hello Memphis Memphis, TN
03-18-74 Guaranteed To Blow Your Mind Richmond, VA
03-20-74 Steamroller Blues Memphis, TN
05-25-74 And The King For Dessert Lake Tahoe, CA
05-26-74 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 2, CD1 Lake Tahoe, CA
06-29-74 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 1, CD2 Kansas, MO
08-30-74 Night Fever In Vegas (2CD) Las Vegas, NV
09-02-74 Desert Storm Las Vegas, NV
09-28-74 College Park Maryland (Remastered) College Park, MD
09-28-74 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 2, CD2 College Park, MD
10-06-74 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 2, CD3 Dayton, OH
10-06-74 Breathing Out Fire Dayton, OH
04-24-75 From Vegas To Macon CD2 Macon, GA
04-25-75 Damn Fine Show, A Jacksonville, FL
05-04-75 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 1, CD3 Lake Charles, Louisiana
05-04-75 Cajun Tornado CD1 Lake Charles,LA
06-02-75 Sold Out In Dixie Mobile, AL
06-03-75 Deep Down South Tuscaloosa, AL
06-04-75 Eagle Has Landed, The Houston, TX
06-04-75 Eyes Of Texas Are Upon You, The Houston, TX
06-05-75 Texas Tornado Houston, TX
06-06-75 Dallas Seventyfive Dallas, TX
06-09-75 Cut 'em Down To Size Jackson, MS
06-10-75 Goin' Back To Memphis Memphis, TN
06-10-75 Let Me Take You Home Memphis, TN
12-13-75 Just Pretend Las Vegas, NV
03-20-76 Running For President Charlotte, NC
03-21-76 Holding Back The Years Cincinatti, OH
06-03-76 Cajun Tornado CD1 Forth Worth,TX
06-30-76 My, It's Been A Long Long Time Greensboro, NC
07-24-76 Hurt Charleston, WV
08-01-76 Bicentennial Elvis Experience Hampton Roads, VA
08-31-76 Southbound Macon, GA
09-06-76 Still Rocking The Nation Huntsville, AL
10-14-76 Chicago Beat Chicago, IL
10-15-76 Bringing The House Down Chicago, IL
10-20-76 Eternal Flame South Bend, IN
11-28-76 America The Beautiful San Francisco, CA
12-07-76 Run On Vegas Las Vegas, NV
12-28-76 Hot Winter Night In Dallas Dallas, TX
12-29-76 Burning In Burmingham Birmingham, AL
02-13-77 Coming On Strong West Palm Beach, FL
02-13-77 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 1, CD4 West Palm Beach, FL
02-14-77 Cajun Tornado CD2 St-Petersburg, FL
02-16-77 Moody Blue & Other Great Performances Montgomery, AL
02-16-77 Coming On Strong Montgomery, AL
02-21-77 Moody Blue & Other Great Performances Charlotte, NC
02-21-77 Cajun Tornado CD2 Charlotte, NC
03-30-77 From Louisiana To Tennessee Alexandria, LA
04-23-77 Goodbye Memphis (2nd Disc) Toledo, OH
04-24-77 Profile, A - The King On Stage Vol. 1, CD4 Ann Arbor, MI
04-26-77 Memories From Kalamazoo Kalamazoo, MI
06-19-77 Candid Elvis On Camera Omaha, NE
06-19-77 As I Leave You Omaha, NE
06-21-77 Let Me Go Home Lord Rapid City, SD


the squirrel

Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:09 am

No, that is not my list. Mine is more extensive.

Do you know your avatar image is reversed?

Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:14 am

It's not reversed Doc.........it's a direct scan from a book called "The Elvis Encyclopedia" by David Stanley....maybe they printed it reversed?



the squirrel

Wed Jun 18, 2003 6:19 am

Oh, that would imply that David Stanley sells crap. Impossible.

Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:29 am

For waht it's worth (probably not much) ;- two things of note

1. I made a similar listing to this approx 18 months ago, two people that regularly post on this board can confirm this, I don't think anyone copied it me, it's just that there is a need for such a breakdown & it can only be done in this similar manner (IMHO).

2. Last Friday (Friday 13th June.....ooops hope it's not an omen), I view the aforementioned listing & it had credits of XXXXXX.com/Keith Flynn/Dr John Carpenter. The X's representing the not to be mentioned website, after reading this post yesterday I noticed that the Doc's credits were no longer there...strange ? I think not when you consider some of the fantastic INTERVIEWS on that website.

Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:39 am

Squirrel:

Your avatar is reversed

Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:45 am

Ray wrote:Last Friday (Friday 13th June.....ooops hope it's not an omen), I view the aforementioned listing & it had credits of XXXXXX.com/Keith Flynn/Dr John Carpenter. The X's representing the not to be mentioned website, after reading this post yesterday I noticed that the Doc's credits were no longer there...strange ?


What a surprise.

That site had a big problem last year with my pointing out on this MB their misappropriation of -- and no credit for -- "rare" photos belonging to others. Case in point was a shot they posted from the June 1956 Milton Berle rehearsal which they: 1) colourized while claiming it was true color and 2) said the image belonged to them. It was stolen from Ger Rijff's wonderful "Shock, Rattle & Roll" photo book.

Their most recent "rare" shot gets all the facts wrong. How impressive.

Wed Jun 18, 2003 3:37 pm

Elvis-Fan.

My avatar is not reversed.....read my last reply to Johnny.



the squirrel

Wed Jun 18, 2003 8:45 pm

Hi, Squirrel!

Actually, they don't mean that you scanned it reversed or that you reversed it, they just mean that the picture in the book that you got it from was reversed. It's nothing you did, just the way it came.

Hope that helps!

Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:11 pm

Thanks Mike. It's amazing that you had to explain that.

Wed Jun 18, 2003 9:24 pm

It's no biggie, everybody has a little mental block now and then. Just a human thing. :)


"It's Ain't No Big Thing.. (A-Tall)... But It's Growin'...."

Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:05 am

Hi Mike and Elvis Fan-


Actually, they don't mean that you scanned it reversed or that you reversed it, they just mean that the picture in the book that you got it from was reversed. It's nothing you did, just the way it came.

Hope that helps!



Thanks Mike. It's amazing that you had to explain that.
_________________
Brad
(CANADA)




Why are u trying to explain something to me- which i've already said in my first reply to Doc- LOL


Here it is TAKE NOTE- LOL
It's not reversed Doc.........it's a direct scan from a book called "The Elvis Encyclopedia" by David Stanley....maybe they printed it reversed?



Thnx guys..you made my day-LOL


the squirrel :wink:

Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:21 am

keith flynn wrote:Dr John
I've checked the other web sites which has this list on them and they ALL have you as part of the credits for the list now. To be honest, I'm very surprised indeed that you wanted your name mentioned on such a site !!! a site which you, yourself have said you want nothing whatsoever to do with !!!
I hope everything is OK with us again now

Keith


It's not about location, it's about credit given for work invested AND the fact that we already discussed and came to agreement on the issue.

If I used 80% of something you posted on this MB, you can be sure your name would be a part of anywhere else I shared it. It's only fair.

Thu Jun 19, 2003 1:58 am

Hey Johnny Boy!!!!

You nicked my pic you thief-LOL



the squirrel :wink:

Thu Jun 19, 2003 5:13 am

LMFAO@squirrel
:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Thu Jun 19, 2003 7:03 am

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Yeah Sam, this squirrel guy's a laugh riot!

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