New FTD: Stateline Sahara 1974

[rollinson1]

Regardless of who engineered this release, it contains bland concerts, both in terms of setlists and performance quality. FTD’s High Sierra is the best one-stop release for this casino engagement.

Or ignore this if you don't have the old High Sierra release and pick up the three disc set.

Buyer beware. Three discs of mediocrity with minimal entertainment value and little musical substance at a premium price.

You can go and listen to what you like, it's everyone's prerogative but as I stated earlier in this thread this is great value for money to this fan and I guarantee that no matter what your listening to ( I listened to an Eagles greatest hits disc this morning by the way) you won't get any more enjoyment out of it than I get out of listening to 3 Elvis concerts on the bounce.

[YDKM]

Well said I listened again to disc 3 of this set and after the intros it's simply "Excellent"....sure first 2 shows are not as good , but also

[pmp]

Regardless of who engineered this release, it contains bland concerts, both in terms of setlists and performance quality. FTD’s High Sierra is the best one-stop release for this casino engagement.

Or ignore this if you don't have the old High Sierra release and pick up the three disc set.

Buyer beware. Three discs of mediocrity with minimal entertainment value and little musical substance at a premium price.

You can go and listen to what you like, it's everyone's prerogative but as I stated earlier in this thread this is great value for money to this fan and I guarantee that no matter what your listening to ( I listened to an Eagles greatest hits disc this morning by the way) you won't get any more enjoyment out of it than I get out of listening to 3 Elvis concerts on the bounce.

I don't think £16.33 per disc is great value for money, no matter how good (or otherwise) the music. I can't think of the last time I spent that much on a new CD - whether Elvis, country, jazz or classical.

[midnightx]

Regardless of who engineered this release, it contains bland concerts, both in terms of setlists and performance quality. FTD’s High Sierra is the best one-stop release for this casino engagement.

Or ignore this if you don't have the old High Sierra release and pick up the three disc set.

Buyer beware. Three discs of mediocrity with minimal entertainment value and little musical substance at a premium price.

You can go and listen to what you like, it's everyone's prerogative but as I stated earlier in this thread this is great value for money to this fan and I guarantee that no matter what your listening to ( I listened to an Eagles greatest hits disc this morning by the way) you won't get any more enjoyment out of it than I get out of listening to 3 Elvis concerts on the bounce.

FTD’s current soundboard pricing is hardly a good value. We are talking about predominantly mediocre-to-substandard concert recordings mostly from a period of Elvis’ decline. $60.00 USD for the three concerts in question is not a bargain.

[drjohncarpenter]

FTD’s current soundboard pricing is hardly a good value. We are talking about predominantly mediocre-to-substandard concert recordings mostly from a period of Elvis’ decline. $60.00 USD for the three concerts in question is not a bargain.

That's just $20 a "Hound Dog." It's 2024, not 1956!

[rollinson1]

Regardless of who engineered this release, it contains bland concerts, both in terms of setlists and performance quality. FTD’s High Sierra is the best one-stop release for this casino engagement.

Or ignore this if you don't have the old High Sierra release and pick up the three disc set.

Buyer beware. Three discs of mediocrity with minimal entertainment value and little musical substance at a premium price.

You can go and listen to what you like, it's everyone's prerogative but as I stated earlier in this thread this is great value for money to this fan and I guarantee that no matter what your listening to ( I listened to an Eagles greatest hits disc this morning by the way) you won't get any more enjoyment out of it than I get out of listening to 3 Elvis concerts on the bounce.

I don't think £16.33 per disc is great value for money, no matter how good (or otherwise) the music. I can't think of the last time I spent that much on a new CD - whether Elvis, country, jazz or classical.

Unfortunately as the Doc says it is 2024 and running costs on everything have been on the up for the last couple of years. With Elvis collectors getting less as each year goes by and indeed physical media buyers, we do have to remember it is a collectors label supplying a niche market. If they are only producing 5000 copies a time then surely the cost of £50 is what they have to charge to make enough profit to carry on. As I have said before yes we have helped provide a living for half a dozen people at Ftd but it's not like people are becoming millionaires off the back of a few Elvis fans paying these prices. If these concerts had been released one at the time on a Fort Baxter, Bilko or Madison Label i the 90's early 2000's fans would have been clambering over themselves to pay £15-17 for an unreleased Elvis concert. Ftd get a rough ride from a lot of people here and I sometimes wonder why the forum has kept it's title for so long.

[rollinson1]

Regardless of who engineered this release, it contains bland concerts, both in terms of setlists and performance quality. FTD’s High Sierra is the best one-stop release for this casino engagement.

Or ignore this if you don't have the old High Sierra release and pick up the three disc set.

Buyer beware. Three discs of mediocrity with minimal entertainment value and little musical substance at a premium price.

You can go and listen to what you like, it's everyone's prerogative but as I stated earlier in this thread this is great value for money to this fan and I guarantee that no matter what your listening to ( I listened to an Eagles greatest hits disc this morning by the way) you won't get any more enjoyment out of it than I get out of listening to 3 Elvis concerts on the bounce.

FTD’s current soundboard pricing is hardly a good value. We are talking about predominantly mediocre-to-substandard concert recordings mostly from a period of Elvis’ decline. $60.00 USD for the three concerts in question is not a bargain.

They maybe sub standard to you but to me and others these concerts are not that bad. We all have the opportunity to think back in hindsight and wish we had not done this or we had not done that in our lives. Elvis, because of his lifestyle never got this opportunity and we as Elvis fans have to to take what is available to us. Did the quality drop off as time went by, sure it did but I much prefer to have Elvis the entertainer over Elvis the king of rock & roll, to not have anything at all. I won't use the docs favourite saying "merit" but if I can find just one very good rendition of a song in these concerts then that's valuable to me. When I want to listen to something different I do as I have a very diverse liking to music, except punk rock ( even as a 16 year old when it was about I never got it). I think in general that anything is only value for money to oneself if you are willing to pay it.

[YDKM]

I have spent the weekend with these 3 concerts listening to each show x3 times. They are not bad at all. At times very good at other times rushed, throwaway performances and just a sing for scarf giving away song.Still Elvis is not giving any new performances, so based upon that I accept them for what they are and a chance to hear a new Elvis show.

[pmp]

Regardless of who engineered this release, it contains bland concerts, both in terms of setlists and performance quality. FTD’s High Sierra is the best one-stop release for this casino engagement.

Or ignore this if you don't have the old High Sierra release and pick up the three disc set.

Buyer beware. Three discs of mediocrity with minimal entertainment value and little musical substance at a premium price.

You can go and listen to what you like, it's everyone's prerogative but as I stated earlier in this thread this is great value for money to this fan and I guarantee that no matter what your listening to ( I listened to an Eagles greatest hits disc this morning by the way) you won't get any more enjoyment out of it than I get out of listening to 3 Elvis concerts on the bounce.

I don't think £16.33 per disc is great value for money, no matter how good (or otherwise) the music. I can't think of the last time I spent that much on a new CD - whether Elvis, country, jazz or classical.

Unfortunately as the Doc says it is 2024 and running costs on everything have been on the up for the last couple of years. With Elvis collectors getting less as each year goes by and indeed physical media buyers, we do have to remember it is a collectors label supplying a niche market. If they are only producing 5000 copies a time then surely the cost of £50 is what they have to charge to make enough profit to carry on. As I have said before yes we have helped provide a living for half a dozen people at Ftd but it's not like people are becoming millionaires off the back of a few Elvis fans paying these prices. If these concerts had been released one at the time on a Fort Baxter, Bilko or Madison Label i the 90's early 2000's fans would have been clambering over themselves to pay £15-17 for an unreleased Elvis concert. Ftd get a rough ride from a lot of people here and I sometimes wonder why the forum has kept it's title for so long.

If materials etc have gone up, why haven't they gone up for every other cd you buy? They haven't. Sony themselves offer 3cd sets for £5! I buy CDs and blu rays in lower print runs than 5000 - sometimes just 1000 - and the prices have not gone up noticeably. And you can't compare FTDs to bootlegs from 30 years ago. A completely different scenario.

[YDKM]

Maybe as the number of FTD cds is small the price needs to be higher to keep making them profitable? For the company

[Markus K.]

When I first read the announcement for this set I knew exactly what I would get in regards to content, sound and performance quality. I only listened to each disc once when it arrived and it was just like I expected. The sound of the recordings is really good and well balanced for a soundboard, the song selection is not one of my personal favorites and in combination with often lackluster performance quality I felt the need to skip a number of times.
I wanted to have this as a collector but don‘t think I will revisit this set to enjoy the content any time soon.

[Ciscoking]

Thanks everybody for the good feedback...stay tuned for more to come...

[minkahed]

When I first read the announcement for this set I knew exactly what I would get in regards to content, sound and performance quality. I only listened to each disc once when it arrived and it was just like I expected. The sound of the recordings is really good and well balanced for a soundboard, the song selection is not one of my personal favorites and in combination with often lackluster performance quality I felt the need to skip a number of times.
I wanted to have this as a collector but don‘t think I will revisit this set to enjoy the content any time soon.

Always enjoy reading your posts and sharing your thoughts and honesty with us. Thanks.

[Markus K.]

When I first read the announcement for this set I knew exactly what I would get in regards to content, sound and performance quality. I only listened to each disc once when it arrived and it was just like I expected. The sound of the recordings is really good and well balanced for a soundboard, the song selection is not one of my personal favorites and in combination with often lackluster performance quality I felt the need to skip a number of times.
I wanted to have this as a collector but don‘t think I will revisit this set to enjoy the content any time soon.

Always enjoy reading your posts and sharing your thoughts and honesty with us. Thanks.

Thank you so much for your kind words!

[midnightx]

FTD’s current soundboard pricing is hardly a good value. We are talking about predominantly mediocre-to-substandard concert recordings mostly from a period of Elvis’ decline. $60.00 USD for the three concerts in question is not a bargain.

That's just $20 a "Hound Dog." It's 2024, not 1956!

Broken out, that is about $.50 per second for that song. Quite a bargain indeed!

[On Tape 1972]

Thanks everybody for the good feedback...stay tuned for more to come...

How long do you want us all to stay tuned? I've been all tuned up for weeks now

[PiersEIN]

Jan Eliasson is the new Lene Reidel.

Has no one else noticed the mastering fault on CD1?
On Polk Salad the audio drops out @ 00:18 just as Elvis sings "down in Louisiana".
It's not the cassette.

I'm presuming it's on everyone's copy, but it would be good to verify.
Cheers,
Piers

[On Tape 1972]

Jan Eliasson is the new Lene Reidel.

Has no one else noticed the mastering fault on CD1?
On Polk Salad the audio drops out @ 00:18 just as Elvis sings "down in Louisiana".
It's not the cassette.

I'm presuming it's on everyone's copy, but it would be good to verify.
Cheers,
Piers

It's on everyone's copy. It's not a fault but a mastering decision (noise was removed after the AD transfer). Eliasson could have left it in and people would still complain. Barely noticeable and well done IMO.

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[jurasic1968]

This looks like a seismic cross section with I work in the seismic interpretation. LOL.

[drjohncarpenter]

Has no one else noticed the mastering fault on CD1?
On Polk Salad the audio drops out @ 00:18 just as Elvis sings "down in Louisiana".
It's not the cassette.

I'm presuming it's on everyone's copy, but it would be good to verify.

It's on everyone's copy. It's not a fault but a mastering decision (noise was removed after the AD transfer). Eliasson could have left it in and people would still complain. Barely noticeable and well done IMO.

Thanks for the clarity.

Those who know little are usually the first to lash out when finding a "fault."

[PiersEIN]

Thanks for the clarity.
Those who know little are usually the first to lash out when finding a "fault."

It would have been so easy to fill the gap, that makes little sense to drop out a section to nothing.

and drjohncarpenter, I am a professional broadcast engineer with a degree.
What are your technical qualifications?

Cheers
Piers

[drjohncarpenter]

It would have been so easy to fill the gap, that makes little sense to drop out a section to nothing.

and drjohncarpenter, I am a professional broadcast engineer with a degree.
What are your technical qualifications?

Little man big mad.

[1015elvis]

Jan Eliasson is the new Lene Reidel.

Has no one else noticed the mastering fault on CD1?
On Polk Salad the audio drops out @ 00:18 just as Elvis sings "down in Louisiana".
It's not the cassette.

I'm presuming it's on everyone's copy, but it would be good to verify.
Cheers,
Piers

It's on everyone's copy. It's not a fault but a mastering decision (noise was removed after the AD transfer). Eliasson could have left it in and people would still complain. Barely noticeable and well done IMO.

So it's similar to One Night in the 1976 Memphis release?

[1015elvis]

Has no one else noticed the mastering fault on CD1?
On Polk Salad the audio drops out @ 00:18 just as Elvis sings "down in Louisiana".
It's not the cassette.

I'm presuming it's on everyone's copy, but it would be good to verify.

It's on everyone's copy. It's not a fault but a mastering decision (noise was removed after the AD transfer). Eliasson could have left it in and people would still complain. Barely noticeable and well done IMO.

Thanks for the clarity.

Those who know little are usually the first to lash out when finding a "fault."

But there is a fault, don't you see the seismograph shaking its butt off.

[skabillyrebels]

https://www.mediafire.com/file/1451ypm2hxtsmx9/10-Polk_Salad_Annie__fixed_audio.flac/file

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