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'New Army Home Recordings Tape'-Mystery solved?.

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Hi there!! :D :D :D.

Former FECC member "Juan Luis", miss you my friend! :cry:. Has shared on "Phoenix" Elvis forum, an exciting original tape of Elvis singing many cool songs at 14 Goethestrasse, Bad Nauheim, Germany in April 1959 8).

Hopefully if FTD gets the tape they can do some repairs. Bye for now :smt006.

http://www.theelvisforum-phoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8879

Note: For more info on the songs please check the following link here below! :wink:.

Source: http://www.keithflynn.com/essential_lists/homerecordings-1950s.html
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I just saw that too
for the people who want a bit more info, it's the april 1959 tape which Ernst thought wasn't Elvis.
It clearly is.

April 1959 (?)
14 Goethestrasse, Bad Nauheim, Germany
(Elvis playing guitar, with (possibly) Red West, Rex Mansfield, Charlie Hodge and Lamar Fike)
He Knows Just What I Need 3:28 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 1:40 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 1:08 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 1:51 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 2:41 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 3:02 Tape°
Reading the news (not Elvis) 3:08 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 2:36 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need 1:33 Tape°
He Knows Just What I Need / talking 2:10 Tape°
Cool Water 4:35 Tape°
Like A Baby 2:26 Tape°
His Hand In Mine 2:35 Tape°
Young Love 1:05 Tape°
His Hand In Mine (rehearsing a few times) 9:41 Tape°
Return To Me 0:58 Tape°
Are You Sincere 0:35 Tape°
Are You Lonesome Tonight? 3:07 Tape°
Stand By Me (rehearsing a few times) 6:02 Tape°
Just A Closer Walk With Thee 1:05 Tape°
Take My Hand, Precious Lord 0:56 Tape°
Oh, Lonesome Me 1:56 Tape°

(copied from keith's site so you all can read right away what is on it)
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An awesome find from Juan.

Truly grateful for his generous share on the Phoenix forum.

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Johnny2523 wrote:it's the april 1959 tape which Ernst thought wasn't Elvis.
why did he think it wasn't Elvis??
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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
sweetangeline on September 9th, 2018, 8:07 pm wrote:
Johnny2523 wrote:it's the april 1959 tape which Ernst thought wasn't Elvis.
why did he think it wasn't Elvis??
Maybe Ernst Jorgensen had a worse audio tape source available to confirm it was Elvis indeed.... :wink:. If it wasn´t for collectors like "Juan Luis", we wouldn´t have had the chance to listen to it! :smt020. Bye for now :smt006.
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kevanbudd on Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:51 pm wrote:An awesome find from Juan.

Truly grateful for his generous share on the Phoenix forum.

Kevan Budd.
Yes...awesome. .
Thanks to Ernst Joergensen, Roger Semon and Erik Rasmussen for the great work. Keep the spirit alive !
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Just an absolutely incredible find, I'm truly speechless. It sounds rather dramatic but I genuinely am...what a find from Juan Luis - I've joined the Phoenix forum just to thank him! Thanks to you Mike for the share also.

I'm only 12 minutes in, but boy what a treat.

Wow!!!!
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If Ernst can have access to this tape this could be the addition material needed to release on an FTD of For LP Fans Only.


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WOW WHAT A GREAT FIND>>>>
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Indeed what a treat. Fantastic find.
Juan is sorely missed.
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I recall how excited Ernst was when he heard the YouTube clip of IFTRTF, can you imagine his expression upon hearing this. Best discovery in quite a while. Thank you to all for bringing this our way!!

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Elvis sings "Her Hand in Mine" - its now a love song, and he absolutely nails Are You Lonesome Tonight? even in April 1959 amazing stuff - thank you so much "Juan Luis"
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This has to be one of THE best findings in decades!!!! :shock:
Soundboards and sh¡t are nothing compared to this!

Thank you so much, Juan Luis (and Mike for the info).
This is just incredible, I'm out of words, really...
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Wow, that was totally unexpected!
Juan Luis, thanks so much for sharing these great recordings with fellow fans. Such a selfless share is spirit lifting. Can‘t thank you enough for this.
Hearing Elvis coming to grips with his later gospel and pop recordings is fantastic. I really love the partial „Like a baby“ and the unexpected snippet of „Are you sincere“ but it’s hard to single out one performance from this fly-on-the-wall jam session on some of his upcoming recordings.
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Thank you Mike and please thank Juan on my behalf.

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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
lucio on September 9th, 2018, 11:43 pm wrote:Thank you Mike and please thank Juan on my behalf.

Lucio
Please go over there, this goes too for all the others who want to thank Juan Luis! :wink:. Bye for now :smt006.
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Hi there!! :D :D :D.
ForeverElvis on September 9th, 2018, 9:44 pm wrote:If Ernst can have access to this tape this could be the addition material needed to release on an FTD of For LP Fans Only.
A special FTD 2/3 cd release called: The Complete Germany Home Recordings, released around Christmas this year, would be cool too! :wink:. After all 2018 will be the 60th Anniversary of Elvis arriving in Germany 8). Bye for now :smt006.

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P.S: Hold on I just gave the bootleggers some ideas.... :wtf:.
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ForeverElvis on Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:44 pm wrote:If Ernst can have access to this tape this could be the addition material needed to release on an FTD of For LP Fans Only.


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Cool discussion topic!

But this isn't a "mystery," or a "find," in that this tape has been known about for at least 20 years. Ernst Jørgensen published the titles in his landmark book Elvis Presley: A Life In Music. And he wrote specifically this about these recordings:
As of this writing only the track listing for this tape has yet been located; it is uncertain whether the tape itself is lost, but the list reveals more of the material Elvis and his friends worked on during their time in Germany.
What we can assume, though, is that the FTD did not have access to this reel of German home demo tape, or it would certainly have been included on their "classic album" edition of A Date With Elvis. But as everyone knows, there are plenty of such tapes, films, photos and memorabilia in private hands, and only money or luck can shake them out for the rest of us. In this case, it seems the latter has played a part, and anyone who cares about Elvis' most important era, the fifties, should tip their cap to it being shared on the internet.

On a side note, it is almost certain that some grey market label will have his material out on shiny within a few months, so those who don't do downloads I suppose can remain patient and hopeful. Unfortunately, on its own it will not likely receive an official retail release ever, because the quality and age of the material is not commercial enough to be green-lit by Sony. As part of an FTD collection? More likely.

Of the selections, I did some research on the most interesting of them. Below are my results, enjoy!


"Cool Water"
- a big hit in 1948 for Vaughn Monroe, and Presley might have liked Frankie Laine's 1955 single as well


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Vaughn Monroe and His Orchestra "Cool Water" (RCA Victor 20-2923, July 10, 1948)
"Vocal refrain by Vaughn Monroe and the Sons of the Pioneers."



"Like A Baby"
- Elvis would cut this in 1960, a nice r&b chanter originally done by Vikki Nelson in 1957


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Vikki Nelson with the Sounds "Like A Baby" (VIK 0273, April 13, 1957)
Nelson's debut release for VIK.
Toni Arden and the Chordettes released cover versions shortly after.



"His Hand In Mine"
- would be the 1960 title track to his first gospel LP, presumably based on the Blackwood Brothers rendition
- Elvis even tries this out as a secular love song, "Her Hand In Mine"



"Young Love"
- Sonny James had a crossover hit with this in 1957, on the country and pop charts


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Sonny James "Young Love" (Capitol 3602, December 7, 1956)
Billboard "Hot 100" #3, January 26, 1957.



"Return To Me"
- Dean Martin hit in 1958


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Dean Martin "Return To Me" (Capitol 3894, April 7, 1958)
Billboard "Hot 100" #4, June 9, 1958.



"Are You Sincere?"
- 1958 hit for Andy Williams that Elvis would cut in 1973


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Andy Williams "Are You Sincere?" (Cadence 1340, February 10, 1958)
Billboard "Hot 100" #10, March 31, 1958.



"Are You Lonesome To-night?"
- 1950 hit by Blue Barron that would be a huge Presley single in 1960


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Blue Barron and his Orchestra "Are You Lonesome Tonight" (MGM 10628, February 18, 1950)
Lead vocal by Bobby Beers and the Blue Notes, spoken narration by disc jockey John McCormick
Billboard "Records Most Played By Disc Jockeys" #19, April 1950



"Stand By Me"
- Elvis would record this for his second gospel LP in 1966
- He's likely pulling from the version by Statesmen Quartet with Hovie Lister, the song having recently appeared on this 1958 RCA LP:


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The Statesmen Quartet Sings with Hovie Lister (RCA Victor LPM-1605, June 2, 1958)



"Oh Lonesome Me"
- 1958 hit by Don Gibson


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Don Gibson "Oh Lonesome Me" (RCA Victor 7133, December 21, 1957)
Billboard "Hot 100" #8, May 5, 1958.
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Great tape! Thanks for sharing Juan's post, Mike!!! Listening to it now... the source sounds great... very clear.
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I'm not convinced that's Elvis singing.
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Dan_T on Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:09 pm wrote:I'm not convinced that's Elvis singing.
:facep: You better listen again.
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Thank you to Juan for sharing the tape and Mike for the info
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Wow, what a find. Fantastic recordings. Listening now :-)