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Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:35 am

James Burton just posted another statement. For some reason I smell a rat… I’m beginning to get the feeling that this issue was really about a conflicting --perhaps more lucrative-- booking, and that he merely found a convenient excuse. Anyway, read on:

A Statement From James Burton:

I want to THANK ALL THE FRIENDS OF ELVIS' FOR STANDING UP FOR ELVIS with me. I am very grateful for your support and understanding.

I will not be on the TCB Band/ Dennis Jale Cruise in September 2014.

The day I sent my statement of Feb 11th, I went ahead and scheduled another project during that time. I have enjoyed working with Dennis and perhaps we can take a cruise together at another time.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL, James Burton


Or am I being too cynical? I have defended James on this thread, but this latest statement somehow left me with an uneasy feeling.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:44 am

It is natural to be cynical; however, if the man has proven to be trustworthy in the past, one should give him the benefit of the doubt.

You would know, one door closes, and a lot of the time, another opens.

The truth, generally speaking, usually reveals itself in time, also by people's actions, or lack thereof.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:55 am

Well James has never written a book smearing Elvis, so I think he still beats Red. I'd rather see James (which I have) than Red (which I'd never do).

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:47 pm

Rock Legend wrote:James Burton just posted another statement. For some reason I smell a rat… I’m beginning to get the feeling that this issue was really about a conflicting --perhaps more lucrative-- booking, and that he merely found a convenient excuse. Anyway, read on:

A Statement From James Burton:

I want to THANK ALL THE FRIENDS OF ELVIS' FOR STANDING UP FOR ELVIS with me. I am very grateful for your support and understanding.

I will not be on the TCB Band/ Dennis Jale Cruise in September 2014.

The day I sent my statement of Feb 11th, I went ahead and scheduled another project during that time. I have enjoyed working with Dennis and perhaps we can take a cruise together at another time.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL, James Burton


Or am I being too cynical? I have defended James on this thread, but this latest statement somehow left me with an uneasy feeling.


No, I don't think so. Burton must have known how fans, Hebler and Lacker were going to respond.

All it seems to have done was bring up sad memories and divide us fans more.

There's more to this story than we know, and in time, we'll find out.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:59 pm

Maybe yes, or maybe no.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:30 pm

Rock Legend wrote:James Burton just posted another statement. For some reason I smell a rat… I’m beginning to get the feeling that this issue was really about a conflicting --perhaps more lucrative-- booking, and that he merely found a convenient excuse. Anyway, read on:

A Statement From James Burton:

I want to THANK ALL THE FRIENDS OF ELVIS' FOR STANDING UP FOR ELVIS with me. I am very grateful for your support and understanding.

I will not be on the TCB Band/ Dennis Jale Cruise in September 2014.

The day I sent my statement of Feb 11th, I went ahead and scheduled another project during that time. I have enjoyed working with Dennis and perhaps we can take a cruise together at another time.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL, James Burton


Or am I being too cynical? I have defended James on this thread, but this latest statement somehow left me with an uneasy feeling.


So, no James and no Red on the cruise. I hear the trumpet player from the Hot Hilton Horns is available, for the right price.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Mon Feb 17, 2014 11:50 am

Aw, heck, I don't go on cruises; I mean I wouldn't. Not after several recent horrible incidents on such vessels. Remember the "poop deck" that rolled into Mobile?



Sail on!

rjm

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Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:03 pm

Ultimately Elvis is to blame for his downfall......but, I think they're all hypocrites......MM, TCB, the women, his Dad and especially Tom Parker.
If they all 'supposedly' had his best interests at heart they should have tackled him head on regardless of the consequences to themselves personally. They all 'loved him so much'......bulls*it
All able bodied people who could have got work elsewhere.....

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:11 pm

Not Vernon. The last job he had was in the early 50' if I remember correctly.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:34 pm

debtd1 wrote:Ultimately Elvis is to blame for his downfall......but, I think they're all hypocrites......MM, TCB, the women, his Dad and especially Tom Parker.
If they all 'supposedly' had his best interests at heart they should have tackled him head on regardless of the consequences to themselves personally. They all 'loved him so much'......bulls*it
All able bodied people who could have got work elsewhere.....


Yes and Parker should have offered an alternative to the self-destructiive path that Elvis adopted.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:37 pm

elvisjock wrote:So, no James and no Red on the cruise. I hear the trumpet player from the Hot Hilton Horns is available, for the right price.

Then that leaves me out. I'll not take a boat ride with any member of the Hot Hilton Horns. Those back-stabbing bastards weren't really Elvis' friends!

They were really something on stage, but where were they the minute Elvis needed them?

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:46 am

jungleroombear wrote:With the benefit of hindsight the book would never have been written esp if the three guys involved were aware of how much their recollections would get sexed-up. Dave Hebler's response to Jame's statement is in poor taste though and merely serves to fuel the hurt and widen the divide. Really these guys need to move on. In fact why can't a big team hug of forgiveness and reconcilliation be pencilled in as an event at the Pyramid during Elvis week. I'm sure everyone would be in floods of tears. I'm filling up just imagining it!
BTW does anyone know how many copies the book sold globally? I understand the Walmart chain placed the largest book order ever (2.5m) at the time of Elvis' death.



Well said.

:D

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:50 am

jungleroombear wrote:In fact why can't a big team hug of forgiveness and reconcilliation be pencilled in as an event at the Pyramid during Elvis week.


It's never too late for a group hug, I say.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:39 pm

I missed this thread
It's a shame that after reading all 9 pages no one caught on how someone who is claiming to be a Christian and has no forgiveness after 40 years??
WOW I thought Christians were taught to forgive and not judge other people.
(judge not or you will also be judged -Matthew 7.1)

Red West is an awesome guy and I hope he told James the hypocrite to kiss his red ass..

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 05, 2016 6:04 pm

Quote a scripture and then tell him to kiss an ass.

Sounds like a preacher or two that I know of.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:42 pm

For what it's worth, I've spoken to Dave Hebler quite a few times over the last few years over the messenger and on Facebook about several issues, including Elvis, and while in the beginning he seemed to be a very sincere nice man, over time, he seems to come across over temperamental, arrogant even, to the point that I no longer care to keep in touch with him.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:07 pm

minkahed wrote:For what it's worth, I've spoken to Dave Hebler quite a few times over the last few years over the messenger and on Facebook about several issues, including Elvis, and while in the beginning he seemed to be a very sincere nice man, over time, he seems to come across over temperamental, arrogant even, to the point that I no longer care to keep in touch with him.


What does that have to do with Red West?

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:01 am

Good on you, James.

Now that is integrity.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:10 am

Rob wrote:Quote a scripture and then tell him to kiss an ass.

Sounds like a preacher or two that I know of.


You mean like the one from Tupelo who sometimes stood on a table and waved a cane to hold everyone's attention?

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Nov 06, 2016 12:16 am

brian wrote:
minkahed wrote:For what it's worth, I've spoken to Dave Hebler quite a few times over the last few years over the messenger and on Facebook about several issues, including Elvis, and while in the beginning he seemed to be a very sincere nice man, over time, he seems to come across over temperamental, arrogant even, to the point that I no longer care to keep in touch with him.

What does that have to do with Red West?

Nothing.

But by God he talked to Dave!

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:27 am

Tears in my eyes, loyal good friend till the end.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:00 am

Rob wrote:
brian wrote:
minkahed wrote:For what it's worth, I've spoken to Dave Hebler quite a few times over the last few years over the messenger and on Facebook about several issues, including Elvis, and while in the beginning he seemed to be a very sincere nice man, over time, he seems to come across over temperamental, arrogant even, to the point that I no longer care to keep in touch with him.

What does that have to do with Red West?

Nothing.

But by God he talked to Dave!

Maybe Dave read that scripture and decided to have minkahed to kiss his ass. :wink:

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:24 am

Whaw. I haven't been on this board for a while and this thread jumped at me.
I couldn't care less what any one on this board types on this thread.
None of you have any sort of intimate connection to any of the parties involved.

JB should have bowed out of the event without the drama of a young kid and the need to voice his personal opinion to complete strangers on-line.
Keep God out of it.
Jeeze ..what B.S.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:30 am

promiseland wrote:
Rob wrote:
brian wrote:
minkahed wrote:For what it's worth, I've spoken to Dave Hebler quite a few times over the last few years over the messenger and on Facebook about several issues, including Elvis, and while in the beginning he seemed to be a very sincere nice man, over time, he seems to come across over temperamental, arrogant even, to the point that I no longer care to keep in touch with him.

What does that have to do with Red West?

Nothing.

But by God he talked to Dave!

Maybe Dave read that scripture and decided to have minkahed to kiss his ass. :wink:


Actually I told Dave to decide, heads or tails ?

He didn't get it either.

Re: Red West: James Burton Takes A Stance

Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:13 am

drjohncarpenter wrote:
Rob wrote:Quote a scripture and then tell him to kiss an ass.

Sounds like a preacher or two that I know of.


You mean like the one from Tupelo who sometimes stood on a table and waved a cane to hold everyone's attention?


"Hear Ye all thou motherfuckers"!


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